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Poll Do you consider Discovery to truly be in the Prime Timeline at this point?

Is it?

  • Yes, that's the official word and it still fits

    Votes: 194 44.7%
  • Yes, but it's borderline at this point

    Votes: 44 10.1%
  • No, there's just too many inconsistencies

    Votes: 147 33.9%
  • I don't care about continuity, just the show's quality

    Votes: 49 11.3%

  • Total voters
    434
Like I always say, Dorn should have looked like this for the entire episode
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With no explanation.
Absofragginglutely.
 
Everybody that dislikes "ENTERPRISE" can blame it for mucking up the TOS timeline with its "Temporal War" and giving them "DISCOVERY" to also dislike.

Problem solved.
:rofl:
 
Sadly, a lot of fans buy into the ENT-is-an-alternate-timeline theory and believe it never happened in the "original" history preceding TOS. Let's not encourage them. :)
 
Everybody that dislikes "ENTERPRISE" can blame it for mucking up the TOS timeline with its "Temporal War" and giving them "DISCOVERY" to also dislike.

Problem solved.
:rofl:
I seriously don't get why Trek fans don't embrace the time war as a reason for all the changes in Discovery the way Doctor Who fans do their version of the time war for all their continuity issues.

We actually have characters from the future explicitly saying things have changed, in "Cold Front", "The Expanse" and others. And there were alien Nazis in the White House.

I used to insist the timeline was changed toward TOS rather than away from it, but these days I think it's a pretty useful get-out-of-jail-free card. Really, It's a reboot with some pandering but if you wanted to put it in the same universe and excuse everything.... time war.
 
Part of me sort of wishes that were the official explanation even if I wouldn't like it. Because then almost everything would sort of make sense and not violate any of the core visual continuity.
 
I seriously don't get why Trek fans don't embrace the time war as a reason for all the changes in Discovery the way Doctor Who fans do their version of the time war for all their continuity issues.

Works for me.

We actually have characters from the future explicitly saying things have changed, in "Cold Front", "The Expanse" and others. And there were alien Nazis in the White House.

Works for me even better. I can't stand ENT, so let it be there that it happened. I don't have to see it in DSC. Nice and invisible, from my perspective. Like an inside job carried out by Section 31. ;)
 
I seriously don't get why Trek fans don't embrace the time war as a reason for all the changes in Discovery the way Doctor Who fans do their version of the time war for all their continuity issues.
I'd love nothing more. I seriously don't get why the producers don't say something like that. But they keep insisting that this is the prime timeline, even though it's so clearly not.

We actually have characters from the future explicitly saying things have changed, in "Cold Front", "The Expanse" and others. And there were alien Nazis in the White House.
Don't they then explicitly say that it resets back to the way it was before?

Daniels : "It's quite a sight. The timeline's resetting itself. You did it. Vosk is dead. He didn't make it back. All of the damage he caused, it never happened."

He doesn't say some of the damage he caused. He says all of it.

Of course, one could suggest that there were other actors in the TCW who did damage that was not reset. But it would be mere speculation.
 
I'd love nothing more. I seriously don't get why the producers don't say something like that. But they keep insisting that this is the prime timeline, even though it's so clearly not.


Don't they then explicitly say that it resets back to the way it was before?

Daniels : "It's quite a sight. The timeline's resetting itself. You did it. Vosk is dead. He didn't make it back. All of the damage he caused, it never happened."

He doesn't say some of the damage he caused. He says all of it.

Of course, one could suggest that there were other actors in the TCW who did damage that was not reset. But it would be mere speculation.
The Xindi attack wasn't supposed to happen and was never fixed, and much earlier "Cold Front" implies the Enterprise was supposed to have been destroyed while observing the stellar nursery.
 
Perhaps. Or perhaps you're not caught up enough on them.


Then they made a fundamental mistake in setting the show in a time and a place where that was a requirement.

Visuals are not everything.

And when the last show to take place in that time period was made 50 years ago, they're not going to replicate that looks. That makes no sense.
 
You want Discovery took like it was made in 1966?
If they set it contemporary to The Cage in the Prime universe, I do.

If you think that's a bad idea then you've explained why they should not have set it contemporary to The Cage in the Prime universe.
 
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