It's not negating to ask what the broader implications are or for more sources. It's your claim. Support it.
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I've seen the box set at JB Hi-Fi. Having a good time binge watching Enterprise and various other series right now, so will add it to the list.
Except it's not though.
Leading up to Disco's release Netflix released two bits of information: More people viewed (pressed play at least once) on Voyager more than any other Star Trek series. It was also suggested at the time from extrapolating data from other outlets that this was proportionately higher than other streaming services. I've just provided the most obvious possible correlation to what that was the case.
The other piece of data Netflix released was that of the top ten rewatched episodes, six were Voyager. It made no mention of 11-20 or 20-100. For all anyone knows, they could all be DS9. And they ONLY thing anyone should infer from that data is that, for whatever reason, after watching Scorpion, Dark Frontier, Endgame, The Gift, and Time and Again people felt compelled to watch them again.
Any other implications are all in your head.
Hey, look, a Star Trek.com poll has TNG at the top followed by VOY and then TOS. Wow, another sample!
Still, doesn't establish any precedence, since it is another niche sample.
My claim, lol. Was simply that TNG and Voyager are most re-watched of Trek on Netflix. It's been posted out there a few times lately, I guess I could re-post it
Ok, so on that basis...it's a fact that VOY is the second-least popular show in the franchise, based on the fact that it has the second-least number of initiated discussions in its forum.
It's no different than saying it's the most popular Trek series based on the fact that on a list, 4-5 most watched episodes happen to be VOY episodes.
In fact, I think given what we know about the contest around both samples, my wild-ass conclusion is far more reasonable than yours.
If it is that simple, then why reiterate it? This is confusing.My claim, lol. Was simply that TNG and Voyager are most re-watched of Trek on Netflix. It's been posted out there a few times lately, I guess I could re-post it
There are simply no way to draw any meaningful implications from this data for supporting something else, like the idea that it could be rebooted and marketed. That's the question-what are the implications of the data?
Yes.
It's exactly like the classic example of taking a cup, dipping it into the ocean, seeing no fish, and concluding there's no life in the ocean.
If I have a physical copy on Blu-ray, I won’t watch it on Netflix. The picture quality of the disc is FAR superior (as usually is the audio).
DVD is a toss up. But I tend to favour the disc for its audio.
See, I'm just the oposite. I would never ever stream something I own the physical media for. Better picture quality, no chance of buffering issues, and loads of extras etc.
You asked.If it is that simple, then why reiterate it? This is confusing.
There are simply no way to draw any meaningful implications from this data for supporting something else, like the idea that it could be rebooted and marketed. That's the question-what are the implications of the data?
The implications of the data are that an audience (a large one) who could watch any Trek was analysed and Neflix released the results.
Large enough? Still skeptical with only one source.
I do. Optical disks make good coasters.
Same here. You can't find well-made making-of documentaries from Charles de Lauzirika or Laurent Bouzereau anywhere to stream, gotta get the discs if you want a mini film school education.
Precisely my point.
But even more to the heart of it-- what makes more sense:
1. Star Trek Voyager, which endured a lukewarm run on network television with declining ratings is now suddenly a cult classic and massively popular in Netflix rewatches, which is a fact that somehow eludes Paramount and CBS as they fight to market the franchise
Or
2. People watch VOY on Netflix more than TOS or TNG because they likely didn't even watch much of VOY in first run, it wasn't nearly as played in syndication, and people probably didn't bother with the DVDs...so it's a cheap and easy way to get up to speed?
That doesn't make it popular, good, marketable or relevant.
And we will never know the truth because it's data without context.
IMHO the reason why TOS was rebooted, but the TNG era (or later shows) have not been is basically the following:
1. TOS is culturally iconic, but sadly unwatchable to a large number of people. I know many Gen-X/Millennial Trekkies who simply will not watch TOS episodes (although they will watch the TOS movies). In contrast, people of my age cohort regularly do rewatches of the other Trek series.
2. The TOS cast was partially deceased, and otherwise elderly, when ST09 came out. Thus you'd need an entirely new cast to revisit the era with the same characters. At that point you might as well reboot. In contrast, every TNG cast member is still alive, in relatively good health (even though they're nearly all 60+), and still active as actors. It would be insulting to revive now with a younger sexier cast. Worse, it would trigger nerd rage about why they didn't just get the old gang back together again. Better to let the whole thing lie low for another generation.
Once again, why are we debating about what would have "crossover appeal?" As long as new Trek TV is in the ghetto of CBS All Access, it's only going to be hardcore fans who will shell out cold hard cash to see it. No one else will sign up for the free preview just because they're curious about this Star Trek thing.
Your last statement in the last paragraph is based on what facts exactly?
Well if you want to source more, go for it
The Netflix audience preferences are a matter of record so who knows what you might find.
Perhaps no one is putting it a bit too strongly. But there's a vanishingly small percentage of people who will sign up for a free trial on a lark who are piqued by interest in DIS (or whatever other Trek projects CBS comes out with) but haven't actually been exposed to it. Especially when you consider that basically anyone who has access to the much more widely used Netflix and Amazon Prime has access to Trek whenever they want - arguably at a much cheaper price, since it comes along with a much larger array of original content.
