A single source does not a reflection make.
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Because people make those kinds of connections all the time. They watch the show, like Red, go to IMDB, find Kate, see Voyager, and decide to check it out.
And I'm sure it's very likely Voyager shows up in their 'You May Also Like' lists. I have no idea. It's certainly there when I watch Orange/Black, but then I also watch the BattleStar TrekWars SG-5 stuff.
More of a question of marketability. In other words, could that be rebooted in a way to appeal to the general audience? While TNG and VOY are not my favorites, I also don't see as much interest in them to continue them on.
I could be wrong, but the current mass appeal of TNG or VOY has never been apparent to me.
I think DS9 is the growing cult hit. It's even getting a Documentary which Voyager and Enterprise hasn't been able to get. In 10 years DS9 will mostl likely be most fans most favorite show. TOS and TNG will be seen as either to dated or simply played out and people are just tired of watching them anymore.
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Discovery isn't an actual reboot of TOS though is it? Oh it is desperately trying to suck off its associations with the Mother Show and in the process it is rather all over the place. Anything TNG or Voyager related would be more in their timelines. If it wanted to name drop then so be it, but Discovery has set itself up to directly fit in with TOS.More of a question of marketability. In other words, could that be rebooted in a way to appeal to the general audience? While TNG and VOY are not my favorites, I also don't see as much interest in them to continue them on.
I could be wrong, but the current mass appeal of TNG or VOY has never been apparent to me.
I could also argue that VOY is the second-least popular series given that it has the second-least amount of discussions initiated in its own Trek BBS forum for any series that has at least 3 seasons.
See how that works? I can make any wild ass assumption based on context-less data that I want.
This is why data is dangerous. Especially incomplete data without full context.
Yeah I know.Huh? I was defending TNG and Voyagers popularity
Sure, makes sense. Your theory is certainly plausible too. I sort of doubt there's much overlap between OITNB fans and people who are inclined to check out random (to them) episodes of Star Trek, but maybe!
Er... if you wanted to. It's a pretty well visited forum though. If you wanted to argue that then that would be within the stats of this forum.
The 'argument' that Voyager contains the most re-watched eps of Trek on Netflix still stands though. It's fact.
And how it would TNG or VOY be any different?
Yes, I do think Discovery is a soft reboot of TOS, and I don't see that as problematic. It's supposed to be the future and the history of Star Trek has been modified at time to reflect current changes. Not unusual.
Regardless, I don't see a TNG or VOY spinoff or reboot being popular enough to be sustainable. Which, I think is @Vger23's point as well.
Ok, that's a fact. Does that mean a reboot or spinoff of that show is sustainable? That's the question.
Yes it does.
No, it doesn't. It indicates that within a small niche (i.e. those who have Netflix) find rewatch value in a show. Does that demonstrate broader appeal?
I've never Orange is the New Black. I tend to think people who watch Star Trek just like that type of thing. Genre and all.
Yes it does. Beside the fact a reflection doesn't have a set quantifier ... a lot of people have Neflix.
Orange Is the New Black is great! I can't recommend it highly enough. Whenever a new season is up, I'll watch it the entire day. I don't care what else is going on that day, I sit through all 13 episodes.
Rinse and repeat the following year.
Welcome to the wonderful world of confirmation bias and statistical analysis. If you have a single source, your sample size is tiny, meaning your margin for error increases significantly.
Q1 2018 statistics showed 125 million people worldwide subscribe. 56.71 million are from the US. That's 1.6% of the worldwide population, and 17% of the US population. It's not as many people as you might think.
Sample size is important, as @Firebird noted . So, it reflects within that sample. Hard to make broad generalizations from that sample size.
Precisely. Stupid stats class coming back to be relevant.
Eh, I dunno. If every fucking superhero in existence can get their own Netflix show, I don't see why we couldn't have some Trek series which focused on more small-bore stories away from the "core" of Trek. I wouldn't expect them to last seven seasons or anything, but they all might have some interesting stories to tell.
I don't think DIS openly broke canon really, but it really stretched it to the limit. Particularly in introducing a Klingon-Federation war which brought Starfleet to the brink of total defeat and was never, ever mentioned again - not even a scant ten years afterward.
The thing is, I don't even really mind that it was done. Except that such hackwork was made of the war, that stretching the continuity in such a way doesn't really feel worth it.
An episodic series with catsuits, lots of technobabble and liberal use of the reset button?
Don't forget every single episode featuring the Borg. IIRC basically all of the top TNG/VOY episodes are borg episodes for some reason.
FWIW, I would never, ever watch something on DVD if it's available on Netflix or Amazon Prime, even if I have the physical DVD's. Part of this is I don't own a TV, and dealing with the copy protection to watch a DVD on your home computer is a bear. But a big portion is DVDs are slow as shit, have partially unskippable intros, and those cruddy browse menus. It's much quicker and more intuitive to just stream a show.
That is why the word 'reflection' is appropriate. You do realise that these same viewers could watch any Trek? They chose to watch what interested them via Netflix. That is how ratings are derived. It is still a source to see audience interest. If you want broader information then go to other sources but that doesn't negate Neflix stats or audience.
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