That's not revamping the show. That's making it another series. If that's the route they'd want to go, they'd be better off just making a new show entirely from scratch.
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That's not revamping the show. That's making it another series. If that's the route they'd want to go, they'd be better off just making a new show entirely from scratch.
Maybe but you could keep the things you like such as Tilly,Saru and Stamets. Recast Burnham with Rosario Dawson. Maybe keep the concept of a Spore Drive.
Jason
I like Disco, but what if we were at a Disco Sucks Rally? You're suggesting we change the music but still call it Disco. If you still call it Disco, you won't get the "STD Sucks!!!!" crowd. You won't get the Disco Sucks Rally. They won't touch Disco with a 10-foot pole so long as you call it such. You're better off creating New Wave.
If someone's determined to not like a show, no amount of changing it will win them over. So, if you're trying to change a show just so you can win over a lot of people in this forum, they're not going to bite. You might get lucky with one or two, but not most of them.
The only people the creators of DSC will be able to convert are the ones who are still on the fence or think, "I'd like it if you just changed this." There's a limit, though.
If you bend over backwards by trying to get people who take it even further and say "I'd like it if you changed this and this and this and this! Oh, and can you change that there too?", then you're not trying to make a show anymore. You're just trying to please the fickle who can change their mind on a whim or know they can say whatever they want and you'll bend over backwards for them. No one respects you if they have you by the balls.
At some point, you have to take a stand and say, "No. At this point, you're either with us or you're not." And, if they're not, maybe they'll be with you next time.
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No. That's a horseshit attempt at salvaging a show. Either put a bullet in its brain or trundle on with the metric ton of crap it's dragging with it on its way to oblivion.
I think it's hilarious when fans of a tv series featuring diverse cultures and races living in a socialist utopia get angry about it pushing some sort of radical left wing agenda
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We have seen shows have major changes and still work or start working. Sheridan taking over on "Babylon 5" or "Angel" basically going away from a detective series and also having some cast changes over the years. "Walking Dead" even went through a number of characters and stayed good for years. If you like some of the characters their is no need to loose them. Of course if it fails then it fails then you cancel it and then start over.
Jason
There is nothing wrong with the show’s agenda
It's just way too over the top for my tastes in STD. Thats just my opinion. Not being a fan of the writing/story development doesn't help matters either.
That's just my opinion. Don't expect all to agree.
I don’t like STDs either.
Angel is a pretty bad example to use, it got invariably worse after it moved away from being a 'detective series'. The Jasmine arc, getting rid of Cordelia, the addition of Spike and the crew taking over wolfram and hart completely ruined the show. I don't think the Walking dead really supports your assertion either. Retooling a series very rarely works.
"Babylon 5" lost me after the first few episodes. Performances were either wooden or ridiculous. "Angel"? Not my cup of tea. "Walking Dead"? Couldn't pay me to watch it. Too banal, far too stupid.
I refuse to check my brain at the door to watch the telly. Give me a good story, well acted, and I'll give it a try.
DISCO ticked all the wrong boxes. Too contrived. Too "Ooh, we have to be so fanwanky!" Too "Oops, we got too fanwanky, now we have to be EDGY!" Too "Yay, that was edgy! Let's be EDGIER!!" Too "Yay! That wasn't a half bad episode of Battlestar Galaxative!"
Nah. They've burnt the bridge well and done. I was finished at the mid-season break, and I'm not giving them another opportunity to disappoint. They don't deserve it, even after kicking out the morons responsible for this flaming train wreck of a show.
I've watched Star Trek since it premiered in the 1960s. I've seen its highs and its lows. Given the choice between watching ST:V and DISCO? I'd watch ST:V on a nonstop loop over DISCO, and I can't stand ST:V.
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I did Google exactly that. So far as I know, everything traces back to his ex-wife airing dirty laundry in public. No woman has actually made a direct allegation against him of misconduct, criminal or otherwise.
I don't see a sarcasm tag or a smiley, so I guess we can only assume you don't actually know any liberals?...
How is it over the top? What is it doing that other trek series haven't done? Is it the gay characters?
I did Google exactly that. So far as I know, everything traces back to his ex-wife airing dirty laundry in public. No woman has actually made a direct allegation against him of misconduct, criminal or otherwise.
I don't see a sarcasm tag or a smiley, so I guess we can only assume you don't actually know any liberals?...
Liberals don't fight each other? Does nobody recall the Hillary/Bernie war that still hasn't really ended.
Jason
My reasons would undoubtedly be taken the wrong way so I will save myself the frustration. I rather just leave it as "This is not my cup of tea" trek. And no it's not because of the gay characters.
My point exactly. (Among many, many other examples...)
Really, it baffles me when anyone accuses Trek of being too political, on-screen or behind the scenes. Its political elements were always one of the most obvious characteristics setting the show apart (and a personal favorite). It never went as far as Babylon 5 (which I liked even more), but even so, politics are baked into Trek.
You probably shouldn't make claims about 'agenda's' if you can't even bother yourself to defend those assertions with evidence.
