Have you people noticed how some are taking Star Trek world kinda too seriously?
Discovery Showrunners fired; Kurtzman takes over
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Kurtzman co-created Fringe and that show was great for it's whole run. I'll give him a chance before attacking him for "ruining Star Trek" and other stupid fan shit like that.
I loved ST'09 and Into Darkness, so I'm cool with Kurtzman being in charge.
But not so cool with him picking up someone else's work-in-progress who was fired because DISCO is a BTS clusterfuck. Hoping it doesn't end with a damp squib finale like S1 did where it really felt like someone different was brought in to figure out and tie up loose ends.
Oh well. Guessing BTS strife is the show's "thing" now.
I think BTS Strife is every Trek show's thing. Except DS9 and maybe Enterprise.
Jason
On the one hand, to the extent I was disappointed with S1 of DSC and the showrunners obviously have to bear some responsibility for that, I suppose I'm glad they're gone.
On the other hand, I don't for a minute believe the ostensible reason they're gone. Writers' rooms are famously contentious on lots of shows, with strong opinions and strong language being tossed about. Hollywood has no shortage of egos, after all. That's usually swept under the rug and only revealed years after the fact, though; it's hardly ever treated as a reason to fire anyone if a show is otherwise performing well. Going public with a story like this is the equivalent of saying someone is "hard to work with"; it seems like a deliberate effort to sabotage the career(s) involved.
On the other other hand, whatever the real issues on the show, it's bizarre that the PTB at CBS are insisting they're not creative ones at the moment they have the best possible excuse to admit that creative issues exist(ed). This suggests that the folks in charge unfortunately still remain either oblivious or deeply in denial about the real problems with the show's writing. Indeed, if they had been cognizant of them, the obvious time to make a change would have been between seasons.
I wouldn't mind a new creative direction for DSC. (I wouldn't mind a creative direction, period.) But seriously, what "extreme left politics"?
Notwithstanding some misplaced ire over casting choices, overall the show's been about as political as an apple pie recipe, especially compared to past Trek shows. I like leftist politics, and I sure haven't seen any on DSC.On this, at least, we can completely agree.
On the bright side, it's nice that Akiva Goldsman is gone too; he's arguably even more of a hack than Kurtzman, and was actually personally involved in writing two of the worst installments of S1, the beginning and the end.
That's the less bright side. Who exactly is left on the DSC writing staff at this point? Ted Sullivan, who penned what was IMHO S1's single worst episode, the Lorca heel turn? What about the evangelical Christian hacks hired between seasons, presumably by Berg and Harberts — are they still around? If so, then again this suggests that no one in power actually grasps (or cares about) the creative problems of this show. If there's any reason to believe it's a group of "amazingly talented people," I haven't heard about it.
No, he doesn't. Whedon cheated on his wife; he didn't harass anybody. That's a personal matter, not a legal one.
This, though, you're right about. Whedon wrote and directed two of the most successful movies of all time. He can pretty much write his own ticket, and he doesn't have to take any job he doesn't want to.
I think you're handwaving away a lot of blame that deserves to fall squarely on him and Orci. Lindelof has at least written other thought-provoking, entertaining things. Kurzman and Orci, not so much.
I sure hope so!
She was still there as of a couple of weeks ago when the Star Trek Room twitter sent out this tweet:
https://twitter.com/StarTrekRoom/status/999421981136056320
You've got Harberts, Berg, Beyer, Ted Sullivan, Bo Yeon Kim, Erika Lippoldt, Vaun Wilmott and Alan McElroy all pictured. Not sure who the other writers in the photo are beyond those.
Sullivan, Lippoldt and Kim have been tweeting regularly about show related stuff as of this week (Kim said she was working on a script Sunday night). Sean Cochran was tweeting from Toronto a couple of weeks back so he was presumably on set for an episode and is still on staff as well.
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And it's a fanwank story about how all of Diana Muldaur's characters are the same person!
Written by Peter David!
Wow, I didn‘t see that coming! They always seemed to be okay people, judging from interviews. I didn‘t see what others were seeing in their behaviour. But since I surely wasn‘t the biggest fan of season one‘s writing, I can only hope it improves with their demise. If only they left earlier. In the middle of the production of the second season seems like a bad moment. Also, I‘m not convinced the remaining writers will fare better with Berg/Harberts gone. Well, we‘ll see ...
