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Discovery Showrunners fired; Kurtzman takes over
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Pulaski!
She accused him of utilizing the casting couch, and not one of his female actresses defended him. I didn't say he was in legal trouble, I said he has his own #metoo issues, which is the case.
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There is also Whedons abysmal treatment of Charisma Carpenter when he found out she was pregnant
There is also Whedons abysmal treatment of Charisma Carpenter when he found out she was pregnant
At this stage in the game I'd be surprised if there is any real story telling changes. There are only 13 episodes and five are already filmed. Got to assume scripts for another couple are finished and the overall arc is done.
Although I'd love if they cut the TOS connections out. I know some people here love it but I hate the small universe syndrome.
I still feel that possibillity to connect everything with TOS is the main reason why the studio greenlit this kind of prequel in the first place.
But seriously, what "extreme left politics"?
These days some people classify "not everyone is white, straight and male" as "extreme left politics."
Well, only four out of six main characters were men! I mean, if that doesn't prove reverse sexism then I dunno what does.These days some people classify "not everyone is white, straight and male" as "extreme left politics."
I don't mind connections, I just prefer they be more subtle and not be the meat of everything going on.
The Black badges didn't "go away", though; they just weren't focused on for more than 3 seconds.
I also don't see what the source of this "uneven tone" argument is, at least based solely on what we were shown.
someone yelled on a TV production? Goodness! I guess the knives are out. To hell with all of them and their central nervous system canon thingie.
This is not good news. Turmoil in the writing staff doesn't create great results. It is kind of like early seasons of TNG.
Goldsman is not a big loss, they may be better off without him.
I was neutral about Harberts & Berg. I liked them in interviews but didn't see any great writing from them.
Kurtzman is OK but not great.
What is Manny Coto doing these days?
Goldsman is not a big loss, they may be better off without him.
I was neutral about Harberts & Berg. I liked them in interviews but didn't see any great writing from them.
Kurtzman is OK but not great.
What is Manny Coto doing these days?
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I have mixed feelings. On one hand, something needed to change in terms of showrunning, because it was clear the writer's room didn't work right in Season 1 given the mess we saw onscreen. On the other hand, Kurtzman is a mediocre hack. As long as he acts primarily as the showrunner and not the head writer I think it will be a step up however. It seems like Kurtzman's real "skill" is basically he's really good with budgets and timelines in production. He doesn't deliver a quality product, but he's reliable. Kurtzman is also a real Trek fan, so I think he'll understand how to do this better than Berg and Harberts did.
I'd rather have Ira Steven Behr come back. It's more likely, considering he exited Outlander back in 2016, and isn't working on much other than the DS9 documentary now. Moore's busy with Electric Dreams, IIRC.
Have to wait for the seventy-five year mission book to come out I think. What a shame.
I do find it a bit funny that in Hollywood the track to be a showrunner seems to always start with being a successful writer. I mean, if you're a good writer I can see leading the writer's room eventually, but there are so many other parts of successful shows, such as direction, budgeting, visual design, etc. Why would anyone presume a great writer would have the skills to produce?
I'm beginning to wonder if he has a drug/alcohol problem or something. It seems a pretty epic meltdown for a guy who seemed to be relatively competent until recently.
I'd rather have Ira Steven Behr come back. It's more likely, considering he exited Outlander back in 2016, and isn't working on much other than the DS9 documentary now. Moore's busy with Electric Dreams, IIRC.
Have to wait for the seventy-five year mission book to come out I think. What a shame.
I do find it a bit funny that in Hollywood the track to be a showrunner seems to always start with being a successful writer. I mean, if you're a good writer I can see leading the writer's room eventually, but there are so many other parts of successful shows, such as direction, budgeting, visual design, etc. Why would anyone presume a great writer would have the skills to produce?
I'm beginning to wonder if he has a drug/alcohol problem or something. It seems a pretty epic meltdown for a guy who seemed to be relatively competent until recently.
My understanding from past Treks at least is the writer's room is very, very divorced from the direction/acting side of things. So they might not have had any idea what was going on at all.
The proper sci-fi reference here is "on the gripping hand."
Regardless, when do shows ever admit they have weak writing during their run? Occasionally, years after they air, writers will admit that individual episodes were crap. That's about as open as it gets.
Bo Yeon Kim and Erika Lippoldt are still on staff. Into the Forest I Go was a legitimately good episode. Kinda shallow, but good. They need to do more work.
