No, by their choices of leadership and subsequent continued support of that leadership in spite of all the provable wrong it's done, conservatives (
#NotAllConservatives, but a sizable majority) themselves are implying that they don't believe in truth and justice. There are so many more past and current examples I could cite, but I'll even tie one arm behind my back and just use a single ongoing example to prove my point: Donald J. Trump.
Truth:
In 500 days, Donald Trump has said 1655 false things
All False statements involving Donald Trump
Justice:
Legal affairs of Donald Trump
List of lawsuits involving Donald Trump
Read the 191 Arguments President Trump Has Made Against the Mueller Investigation
Can President Trump Pardon Himself?
There Is Only One Trump Scandal - The myriad Trump scandals can obscure the fact that they’re all elements of one massive tale of corruption
And just for shits and giggles, the American Way (under "U" for "United States"):
The 459 People, Places and Things Donald Trump Has Insulted on Twitter: A Complete List
Donald Trump Says Central Park Five Are Guilty, Despite DNA Evidence
Wading into a racially-charged case from his past, Donald Trump indicated that the "Central Park Five" were guilty, despite being officially exonerated by DNA evidence decades after a notorious 1989 rape case.
Defenders said they were coerced into confessing and all five were later cleared by DNA evidence and a separate confession in 2002 from another criminal who took credit for the assault.
New York paid them $41 million in a settlement in 2014 over their ordeal.
Trump took out a full-page ad at the time of the crime calling for New York to reinstate the death penalty in response.
The case was notable for its racial politics: Four of the Central Park Five were black and one was Latino while the victim was a white banker.
Trump Eyes Accused Wife-Beater Rob Porter for a Late-Season Return
Trump’s History of Defending Men Accused of Hurting Women
‘It’s frustrating’: [Conservative] Women in Mo. bristle at Trump’s words on domestic violence, sexual abuse
I know this is not precisely the illegal arms you were referring to, but it's kind of hard to make the argument that the NRA cares about illegal arms when they appoint a convicted felon (later overturned by a friendly court) responsible for an illegal arms deal and subsequent cover-up as their new President, which Trump supported when he spoke at their conference:
NRA appoints Iran-Contra scandal figure Oliver North as president
While working on the National Security Council in the 1980s, North was involved in an international scandal in which the US sold arms to Iran and funneled the proceeds to the Contras, who were seeking to overthrow the leftist Sandinista government in Nicaragua.
Selling weapons to Iran was "in contravention of stated US policy and in possible violation of arms-export controls," according to a report at the time.
A court convicted North on three felony counts of ordering the destruction of documents, aiding and abetting in the obstruction of a congressional inquiry, and accepting an illegal gratuity. All three convictions were subsequently overturned.
There were reports that Contras sent the planes that had been used to ship them weapons back to the United States filled with cocaine. Indeed, the US Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA) and the FBI were aware that individuals involved in the attempted overthrow of the Sandinista government were also involved in the drug trade.
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President Donald Trump gave a speech at the NRA's annual meeting last week, and rejected calls for tighter regulations. He echoed the gun lobby's assertion that armed citizens will help prevent deadly shootings and drew heated criticism when he mimicked the shooters in Paris in 2015.
The Big Problem with President Trump's Record Arms Deal with Saudi Arabia
Much of that military hardware will likely be pressed into service in the Saudi fight against its neighbor Yemen, where more than 10,000 people have been killed over more than two years of heavy airstrikes and fighting.
This puts the U.S. in a precarious ethical position, say human rights groups and former U.S. officials. The Saudi-led airstrike campaign has hit numerous schools, hospitals, factories, and other civilian targets, leading to well-documented allegations of war crimes by human rights organizations. The war has also pushed much of the country to the brink of starvation, with more than 17 million people facing famine, according to the U.N.
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The weapons deal has also raised legal questions. In a legal opinion sent to the U.S. Senate on May 19, the American Bar Association’s Human Rights Center argued that continued arms sales are illegal under American laws that ban sales to states that violate international law.
Trump's plan to seize Iraq's oil: 'It's not stealing, we're reimbursing ourselves' Strategy of taking oil in Iraq and from areas controlled by Isis presents huge issues from almost every angle and ‘would amount to a war crime’, experts say
Trump Wants to Steal Middle East Oil, and He’s Not Alone - “Take the oil” isn’t just an applause line — it’s a policy that has been discussed in Washington for decades.
Maybe the show wouldn't have to be so one-sided and overt in its advocacy if the other side hadn't completely abdicated its responsibility to truth, justice, and the idealized American Way (even if we don't always live up to those values) in favor of winning at all costs and supporting one's party, policies, and politicians no matter what it does wrong (see Donald Trump, Roy Moore, Don Blankenship, et al.)
Nailed it, to the wall. These neocons never think at all.
As others have demonstrated, Superman didn't shy away from the political issues of the time. Arrow's first season was a pretty overt commentary on the 1% / 99% divide and the crimes of the former, coming out of the recent Great Recession. There are countless other examples.
Heck, the New 52
Superman had a sub-plot about Clark Kent quitting the
Daily Planet because the Planet was doing inconsequential news (he and Cat Grant set up an online news thing of his own to report on real news, just like
the organization this guy set up in real life.) And there have been others in the comic books too (Marvel's doing a story in
Captain America a few years back about the Tea Party, the
Captain America graphic novel dealing with terrorism, the early '70's
Captain America story dealing with a version of Watergate which disillusions Steve and has him become Nomad, The Man Without A Country,
a 1990 Superman story dealing with homelessness as suffered by a member of the Daily Planet staff, all of the stories told in the
Green Lantern/Green Arrow comic book, the
Spider-Man story about drug abuse that ran without a CCA stamp, etc.)
Apparently you care. And a bunch of other people who made a huge stink over the mere existence of gay people having a relationship just like straight characters have done since the dawn of television. But suddenly when a gay person does it, it's "political" and part of an "agenda". If you actually stopped caring about it like you claim you have, it wouldn't be any more of an issue than any other character's relationship, regardless of their sexual orientation.
I'm in complete agreement.
I'd argue that Trump and those who continue to support him in spite of all that he has done insult themselves and compromise the values they claimed to support before he came along, but are willing to throw aside at the drop of a MAGA hat from the stage now.
Plus anybody with a
FYIGM attitude towards others who voted Trump or any other politician like him (including the 'people' who voted in
this moron to lead the province of Ontario.)
Maybe if it seemed like Republican politicians cared more about the loss of schoolchildren and workers and club and concert attendees in mass shootings (or shootings in general) than they did about the loss of any of their precious guns (or even favored stricter regulation on those guns) the writers and the public wouldn't have so much to feel outraged about.
But these neocons NEVER notice that, instead they always believe a ton of bullshit that they pick up from neocon media (reich-wing talk radio and Faux Noise/Fux Schmooze [Fox News.])
Fictional like Britain? We have two British police officers on this board (Hugo and cultcross) who patrol a beat daily without carrying firearms, and wish to keep it that way judging by their repeated statements on the matter in gun debates. The British police do have armed response officers who are dispatched for active shooter and terrorist situations, but the day-to-day patrol officers don't carry them and that seems to be a working system.
Good to see two cops from a different nation talk about this-we need a counter to the bullshit neocon narrative about guns and our 'needing' them or else.
To a guy like TrekGod, anything that doesn't confirm his worldview is 'fictional' (I wonder how fictional he'd feel if a loved one of his got shot in a school shooting or any other kind of similar event.)
Now I'm not saying the US should immediately make that transition until there have been drastic measures taken to reduce firearms possession by the public as well.
Any drastic measure would be good, like the Aussie one. But a long-term solution for the USA would be a gun registry just like what we had here in Canada before Harper fucked it up.
I'm sure I'm just wasting my time posting all of this, because you'll probably ignore it or dismiss it out of hand, but I'm recovering from being in the emergency room last night and this morning, so I have plenty of time to waste at the moment. But before you reject all of this as liberal media bias or fake news (I quoted many sources, not all left-leaning, and they are repeatedly sourced themselves and often just taking direct quotes from the conservative politicians they're writing about) I urge you to actually look at the substance, because I'm hoping there are still conservatives out there who do stand for these values besides the few who have spoken up.
You might be doing so, but anything that counters the view of clueless neocons is welcome. Unfortunately, classic conservatives are as rare as white gorillas.
Barack Obama (I criticized his drone campaign and strict immigration policies too),
The drone strikes were (most likely) lawful and needed, and (from what I recall) didn't hit any innocents; what you've read about those is left-wing emoprogressive caca (and if Obama had't done anything to stop said terrorists, people would still be complaining anyway.) As well, for the record,
here are Obama's considerable accomplishments.
Hillary Clinton (warhawk with questionable ethics, though not even on the same scale as Trump)
By how much? People have to realize what the reality of being a leader is while in office vs. what they hope to accomplish
while running for office; both Obama and Clinton had to go through this as progressive leaders, as does a progressive leader like Justin Trudeau or anybody else similar in other nations. Unrealistic Purity Poutrage
emoprogressive magical rainbow pony farts that disintegrate when faced with the cold light of reality shining upon them are not good cornerstones for running a government.
Some pointers for left-wingers (American and otherwise) to learn:
Politics 101 For The Left,
plus more of the same
