Kathleen Kennedy Damaging Star Wars....?

[cooleddie74]

George himself picked Kathy to head Lucasfilm and the woman has a professional track record that goes back decades and includes helming or co-helming some of the biggest and most critically-acclaimed blockbusters of the past 35 years.

Most of this hate is generated by trolls and sexists who just want to scapegoat a female studio head for the flaws and failings of screenwriters. Rey isn't perfect nor the best Star Wars character by a longshot but this Mary Sue/SJW/Forced Diversity crap has gotten stale and holds less water than a Jawa's bladder.

Get a new routine, guys. The fanboy girlrage isn't working.

 

[Jedi_Master]

Rey is f....ing awesome. She is interesting, engaging, charming, intelligent, and Daisy Ridley BELIEVES in the power of Star Wars and is able to carry herself with dignity and grace while zipping through a hellish character arc (seriously Rey has been abandoned/betrayed by EVERYONE she ever believed in, and yet still has held to her inner beliefs and principles).

Kathleen Kennedy was the woman behind the curtain for Lucasfilm for decades, and George handed her the day-day decision making power long before he made it public.

You know what's crazy? Ms. Kennedy was a guiding force for the late Expanded Universe for YEARS, making many of the choices as to what was and what wasn't acceptable. Many of the folks who are demanding her head on a force pike are also demanding that the EU be "restored" to canon. Yet SHE was the one responsible for its success! Mind-blowing.

 

[Campe]

Kathleen Kennedy was the woman behind the curtain for Lucasfilm for decades, and George handed her the day-day decision making power long before he made it public.

You know what's crazy? Ms. Kennedy was a guiding force for the late Expanded Universe for YEARS, making many of the choices as to what was and what wasn't acceptable. Many of the folks who are demanding her head on a force pike are also demanding that the EU be "restored" to canon. Yet SHE was the one responsible for its success! Mind-blowing.

I was not aware of any of that. Do you have a source?

 

[fireproof78]

You know what's crazy? Ms. Kennedy was a guiding force for the late Expanded Universe for YEARS, making many of the choices as to what was and what wasn't acceptable. Many of the folks who are demanding her head on a force pike are also demanding that the EU be "restored" to canon. Yet SHE was the one responsible for its success! Mind-blowing.

Let's be clear. Kathleen Kennedy has become the "other" and non-human, faceless enemy figure for a portion of fan opinion that cannot accept that the things they spent years memorizing and reading are suddenly being changed. No matter the facts of the case, as you point out, Kennedy is the Darth Vader of the story. A faceless enemy to be hated and disparaged and never understood.

 

[Jedi_Master]

I was not aware of any of that. Do you have a source?

I'm going to strike that comment, as I can't find who was the guiding force behind the EU according to official sources, and my memory may be faulty.

It was faulty - the lady I was thinking of is Sue Rostoni. My mistake.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Sue_Rostoni

 

[Jedi Marso]

At the end of the day, isn't that the point? This is entertainment. I love Star Wars. I love talking about Star Wars. I have Chewbacca and BB-8 bobbleheads looking at me right now at my desk at work. Yes, I enjoy talking about the stories behind it, but going into so much detail as to discuss how Luke can do something but Rey shouldn't be able to? Come on. Its about the enjoyment of it all! I mean, we're talking about a universe where a laser can act as a blade to a sword and just stop in mid-air and be powerful enough to cut through stuff without killing the person wielding the blade. (I'm sure there is an explanation in the EU as to how all of this works. I don't care. 41 years onscreen with no explanation. And most are okay to just accept it.) Who cares if Luke had a few hours of training and Rey just opened herself to the Force? The question is: Did you have fun? Any overexamination of this stuff just ruins it for me.

Get the fuck outta heah with your overly sensible approach to the whole thing!!

 

[Jedi_Master]

I find the correlation between the "fire JJ Abrams and Star Trek is dead" crown and the "fire Kathleen Kennedy and Star Wars is dead" crowd to be rather depressing.

 

[Awesome Possum]

I find the correlation between the "fire JJ Abrams and Star Trek is dead" crown and the "fire Kathleen Kennedy and Star Wars is dead" crowd to be rather depressing.

Entitled, bitter man children are a plague on the various fandoms.

 

[Jedi_Master]

Entitled, bitter man children are a plague on the various fandoms.

I don't disagree, but the most irritating ingredient is the resistance and disregard for facts.
When facts that counteract the narrative (its all trash, its terrible, needs to be cancelled, its failing) are introduced they are disregarded, or even at times labeled as "false" or "fake."

 

[Campe]

I don't disagree, but the most irritating ingredient is the resistance and disregard for facts.
When facts that counteract the narrative (its all trash, its terrible, needs to be cancelled, its failing) are introduced they are disregarded, or even at times labeled as "false" or "fake."

Sadly, that's the world we live in at the moment. It needs to be changed, but the behavior is certainly being modeled these days. Its going to be a challenge to go back to not being in a "post-fact world" again.

 

[Awesome Possum]

I don't disagree, but the most irritating ingredient is the resistance and disregard for facts.
When facts that counteract the narrative (its all trash, its terrible, needs to be cancelled, its failing) are introduced they are disregarded, or even at times labeled as "false" or "fake."

It doesn’t help that they surround themselves in an echo chamber where outside opinions aren’t allowed to enter. Just look at this and the other toxic threads on the same bullshit. Disney is going to fire Kathleen Kennedy any day now. Some blogger knows an “insider” and they said it was going to happen. They’ve created a false reality that only they can see. TLJ made $1.3 billon, half of it in the US and it’s supposedly a failure.

Maybe people outgrow fandoms and some people have made that fandom such a huge part of their identity that they blame everyone and everything but the fact that they should just move on.

 

[Relayer1]

the lady I was thinking of is Sue Rostoni. My mistake.

The post Heir to the Empire EU eventually came dangerously close to destroying my love for Star Wars, which had thrived since I went to see the original film over a dozen times. Zahn did a great job but it really was diminishing returns, and by the Vong war I was out. I guess I know who to blame now !

The situation wasn't helped by my failure to enjoy The Force Awakens. Imagine my surprise when I loved Rogue One and The Last Jedi. Solo was enjoyable if not fantastic, so I have to say, Kathleen Kennedy is doing O.K. so far.

In my humble opinion, anyway.

 

[Awesome Possum]

I’m sad we never got that series about Jaina Solo that was being written when Disney bought it. But the EU was becoming a mess.

 

[Relayer1]

But the EU was becoming a mess.

It really was. I was rather pleased when it was dropped from continuity.

 

[Jedi_Master]

The Yuuzhan Vong series did more to kill my love of Star Wars than a thousand Canto Bights...
What a disaster that was, and the books that followed it - ugh.
I was glad to see the EU go....

 

[Kor]

Personally, I lost interest in the EU way before the Yuuzhan Vong stuff. I also haven't had any motivation to get into Disney's new EU; at the moment I'm only paying attention to the movies and Rebels.

Kor

 

[Campe]

The EU killed Chewbacca. That was (almost) the last straw. But any love I had for those adventures was gone.

 

[Awesome Possum]

I lost interest during the Yuuzhan Vong war. I stuck with it for a while, but the love was gone. I was mainly trying to follow the characters I liked. To me, Disney taking over has been a rebirth for the franchise, especially after the prequels burned me out. I couldn't even get into the Clone Wars series.

 

[Relayer1]

We should form a club...

 

[Jedi_Master]

The Clone Wars cartoons are solid, and some of the stories are epic in breadth and depth.
I have been unable to see Rebels due to not having cable... I will get to that show eventually.