New uniforms in Season 2 Trailer
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Memory-Alpha tries to present things as “in-Universe” where possible, which is why they used the term alternate reality, as that term was used in ‘09
And it isn’t supposedly, it’s been used in official works already for the last couple years.
I call modern Trek either Kelvin Trek or DiscoTrek.
In real life, I just say Star Trek.
i'm still trying to make "kelpien timeline" a thing.
Prime Timeline & Kelvin Timeline
The Kelpien Timeline is tasty. Or so I've heard.
The Kelpien Timeline is tasty. Or so I've heard.
I liked Discovery Season 1 ok, but I'm honestly not at all anticipating Season 2, even though of course I will watch it. But the wait isn't killing me. Honestly, I'm more interested in Star Trek 4 Kelvin Timeline.
How come, PM?
Well, it's not a bad show. But it hasn't grabbed me either. Certainly, there have been some awesome moments, but overall just "meh." I'm willing to cut them some slack here because the behind the scenes production of Season 1 was a shitshow. It's amazing it came out as well as it did.
Also, I don't really like any of the characters. This isn't really different from other series, except there isn't one or two characters I REALLY like.
In TOS, I like Kirk, McCoy, and Spock. Not really anyone else.
In TNG I love Picard and Data, but not really anyone else.
DS9, well, I hate everyone and never made it past Season 1 because of it.
Voyager I like Janeway, Seven, and the Doctor, and Kim a little I guess.
Enterprise, I like Archer, Trip, T'pol, and that's about it.
But with Discovery, I really don't like anyone except Saru and Lorca and even then, Lorca is just "ok". Then he went full evil and...well, he's dead. Burnham as the main character so far is a big mistake, imho. She's as interesting as watching paint dry, which is the writing team's fault, not SMG's. SMG in other real life interviews is quite lovely and charming. I wish her character was more like that. Maybe she'll evolve to be. Staments is ok, but just ok. Tyler is just kind there to be a foil for Burnham. Tilly is just over the top cutesy, which can be fun sometimes, but it doesn't endear her to me. The admiral is an incompetent jackass. Culber isn't even really a character, he's in the show like 5 minutes for Season 1. Saru I suppose is my favorite, because he actually seems to have depth, a bit of an arch from becoming a timid and aspiring second officer to badass acting captain, and is well played by Doug Jones. Also, they are on starships the WHOLE Season except episode 8. Get out of the damn ships every once in a while.
Pike and Spock might be cool in Season 2, we'll see. Last I heard it's also setting up a Pike/Spock spin-off series, but that was a while back, so I'm not sure whether or not that is or is not still the plan. Section 31 leaves a bad taste in my mouth because of DS9 and Into Darkness (both of which I loathe) and because Section 31 just turns into a fan wank circle jerk every time it's discussed among fans.
I mean, I'm going to continue watching Discovery for sure, I just wish I could get more excited about it.
SMG wasn't raised by Sarek on Vulcan like MB.
Section 31 was a huge balls up. Maybe a one off shady department whose existence is never confirmed is interesting and adds colour to the Trek universe, but their existence gives lie to everything Trek is suppposed to represent.
The federation, humans in particular, have developed beyond their petty differences and embraced a better way, and maybe our future is that bright too. Except that it’s not, it’s built upon lies and fear and unaccountable forces.
The Federation, so perfect that it needs protecting from those that would seek to destroy it from within and without. The federation is secretly protected from the principles of those who live within it, because without the covert subversion of it’s black ops it would fail. How is that an aspirational future?
It’s the same Federation as Blake’s 7, but with new car smell.
I should think Sarah Michelle Gellar wasn't raised on Vulcan.
How so? Almost every S31 story I've watched has showcased how their machinations are too extreme and often are unnecessary response to a threat.
Secondly, Starfleet is constantly being shown having corrupt leadership-how is that an aspirational future if the leadership ends up having so many individuals who violate their own rules for the sake of power?
S31, while loathsome, is often used as a foil to showcase that shadow ops are neither beneficial nor productive. I have yet to see them execute a plot wherein they protected the Federation better than Starfleet could.
When SMG is used in Star Trek DSC context you shouldn't.
She's a much more famous SMG, at least for me, followed closely by Scott's Miracle Gro
To slay Remans.Yeah, everybody knows that Buffy was raised by Andorians.
Yeah, exactly. Star fleet command is corrupt. The federation has black ops. But Picards evolved sensibilities speech is taken at face value, even while he’s pursuing personal and selfish interests.
I must have missed something because this doesn't track. Because, the original point, as I read it, was that Section 31 reflected that corruption of the Federation. But, now it's the whole setting is corrupt and and no longer an "aspirational future?"
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