Some color would have been helpful as part of it.While I can't say I'm a fan of TMP these minor tweaks would have went a long way into making me like it a bit more.
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Seriously. EVERYONE knows "The Cage" is canon and Gene even said so. That's one of the silliest statements about TOS I've ever heard.
The Kazon hold more water than that opinion does.
It's also an episode with a cannon.
Did you watch the 2009 movie? They reimagined the Enterprise first.
I'm looking forward to seeing new versions of the Enterprise, Pike, Spock and whoever else is on board. It's basically the same thing Supergirl did, bringing in Superman in season 2. I didn't really have an interest in seeing Supergirl, but another new Superman? I was curious enough about that to check out clips on Youtube.
CBS. Consider Discovery, which retcons the look of the USS Enterprise, the uniforms (department colours as well as designs), the terminology ("time warp factor 5!"), the technology (laser weapons and not phasers, no holographic technology etc)
I'm sure something like "The Cage" happened in Discovery's version of the Prime Universe, but it would have happened somewhat differently.
Enterprise retconned those things ages ago.
Yes, but Discovery is doing it now and that is bad.
It's a lot less jarring when it's a show set a century before and not new actors playing the same roles in the same era but everything looks, sounds and happens differently.
The points remains, "The Cage" as we saw it (and all of TOS), didn't happen the same way in the Discoverse. Hence me treating it like a separate continuity.
I'm talking about the terminology.
So you think they went from Phase(r), to Laser and then back to Phaser?
Warp to Time Warp and then back again?
There is no evidence that the events played out differently.
But that doesn't change the fact that "The Cage" is still canon. Canon and continuity are two different things. Both "The Cage" and DSC are canon. Continuity-wise, however, they couldn't be more different.
I don't see how. Nothing in Discovery has broken the Cage's lore.
Realistically speaking Pike probably wouldn't have been as sexist in this world, but that would have been true in TOS onward.
As well as, presumably, the episodes of ENT, TNG and DS9 which show the TOS era. So it basically rewrites all of Star Trek visually history except for Voyager.
So what you're saying is that there are two versions of "The Cage", one where they used this terminology and one where they used the new?
We know Kirk and Spock wouldn't have had the conversation about cloaking devices being theoretical in "Balance of Terror", since cloaks are common just a decade earlier in the Discoverse. That's events unfolding differently.
This is fair enough, although I suggest the word "canon" has become synonymous with "continuity"
Enterprise already did that.
And that makes it okay how...?
I'm just saying, it isn't Discovery's fault.
Complain about series, not just one.
I am!
“The Cage” is NOT canon.
Only those portions of “The Cage” that wound up in “The Menagerie”.
Only those portions of “The Cage” that wound up in “The Menagerie”.
Yes it is.
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