New uniforms in Season 2 Trailer
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I wasn't working with the highest resolution images; here's my mockup of Pike.
I hope Dr. Philip Boyce is still serving on the Enterprise in 2257 or even Dr. Mark Piper. I want to see an aging and cranky guy with a "get off my lawn" attitude dressed in this new uniform design.
Sometimes a uniform color is dictated more by what color looks better on the actor, even though in-universe it would make more sense for them to have a different color. Then they'll make some hand-wavey explanation about that particular character's job/division/whatever. That's why Data had yellow instead of blue even though his role is essentially the resident science geek.Wasn't Charlene Masters a blueshirt engineer? She must have been in charge of the Enterprise Spore Drive.
And he should use his portable med-kit to mix martinis.
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I look at this and I just can't get excited.
All I think of is what have these idiots done to the iconic Enterprise. However, I guess I am alone now as many seem happy with Discovery.
I gave up watching them before they skitted over to the MU. The show was just not worthwhile on any level.
Will I watch the first episode, whenever it returns, to see Pike and company aboard the Enterprise? I don't doubt it, as long as it's free (it will be).
There's no reason to get excited just because they show some folks in the old-style red and gold Trek uniforms, though - you can still see them in the Abrams films.
I have chosen not to watch season 2 as I am not interested in seeing them completely bastardise the original Enterprise
What was the reason behind the holo communicator thing?
The lack of imagination or design talent brought to that project annoys me greatly. I'm not concerned with them changing it, as such. Of course they're going to change it.
Anybody else think the "insufficient facts" line from Spock is a nod to the haters?
Nope. The fact they have to cop all those 5 decade old lines from Spock and Pike to make up for the scant dialogue they took from Burnham to pique viewers' interests only reveals the new show has surprisingly little of substance or anything else to begin with, which is on par with any number of professional site reviews' critiques of the show. But if they're going to babble about forging their own path and how everyone is responsible for Burnham's decisions, then they shouldn't be using the old stuff in any way, shape, or form?
Well, okay, I rather think Burnham meant everyone is responsible for their own path since the show seems to be struggling to find something or anything to say (yet another reason they need to dig up 50+ year-old dialogue clips from a fresher era)... but the show can't seem to decide if it takes a village or if everyone is a village idiot.
Too much bandwidth IIRC. Maybe something to do with security issues. I'll have to re-read.
So why do you care?
I guess I am thinking too much about how different this is from TOS that I am not seeing the bigger picture. I feel that perhaps I am letting design changes stop me from enjoying new Trek. How do I get over the design changes?
I am trying hard to re think my attitudes of late. Perhaps if there is a logical explanation I should be more open to all these visual changes.
Actually, given what we saw him do, I'd say that he has some knowledge of both and that it's his deputies LaSalle (machinery and mechanics) and Masters (application physics) that are the specialists.
Stamets would (mostly) equate to Charlene Masters, but with elements of Spock's Science Officer role.
There isn't always a logical explanation that will satisfy. Star Trek isn't an historical recreation that demands scrutiny to the highest detail. More that is a visual medium using the contemporary tools that are available.
For instance, in video games, should the same characters look identical across every series?
Or, is it reasonable for game studios expand the look and functionality as better tools become available?
There isn't always a logical explanation that will satisfy. Star Trek isn't an historical recreation that demands scrutiny to the highest detail. More that is a visual medium using the contemporary tools that are available.
For instance, in video games, should the same characters look identical across every series?
Or, is it reasonable for game studios expand the look and functionality as better tools become available?
Not being overly familiar with the Halo-Lore: This is exactly the type of "updating" I would be extremely okay with. In each cases, they kept the basic lines. Hell, they even included all the same details: The basic shape of the helmet, the weird shoulder/neck-piece. They basically only added further detail, and slightly adapted the change to accomodate the new details.
What Discovery did, was chaning the entire design language. In this case: Imagine the Halo-guy suddenly not wearing a helmet anymore, and his suit not being technological, but an intricately detailed middle aged fantasy suit with spikes and ornaments. It would essentially be an entirely new thing, and not just an "update".
I'm hella' okay with "updating" stuff. The TMP Enterprise and klingon ships were vastly more detailed than the TOS ones. But they were visibly the same. Just a more detailed rendition. Even the original klingon re-design (adding make-up) was mostly acceptable, because it was solely adding something, that wasn't too hard to imagine that should have already been there originally, but couldn't for budgetary/technological/resolution-related reasons. DIS just changed things - to the point they don't share any properties with their original designs anymore. That's bad.
I'll probably skip the Enterprise portion of the season, and jump in afterward to see if they are moving on to new ideas.
I disagree. I think they changed things by adding more details in to it.
I have to respectfully disagree. DSC does what TMP did (visually speaking). TMP aimed for a new visual design language that paid homage but still did its own thing. New more detailed hulls, new lines, new nacelles, new jumpsuit uniforms, new everything for cinema, but retaining the lore. DSC does the same but in the past Pre-TOS. Aside from "The Cage" which isn't canon bar the events of "Menagerie" (which is merely a manipulated visual recount by the Telosians/Crippled Pike's brain) we see nothing visually of that timeframe. So DSC fills the space with new visuals that pay homage here and there but overall do their own thing while retaining lore (poorly I'll add since their storytelling is abysmal) but yes retaining lore. As we can see for S02 they're reintroducing the TOS uniform again albeit with a visual update ala what Halo did and giving us an updated Big-E but yes from a visual point of view it is very similar to TMP in that light.
Whose ever said "The Cage" isn't canon?
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