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It seems there is a reason for the visual reboot and the producers aren't being honest about it.

Pretend it was all a holodeck programme that Bashir is stuck in

It’s probably the best plan, but without Dr Noah eating the scenery, and a Russian femme fatale, how can I be sure?
Can I do this for everything back to when Baslio and Ezra were a thing?
 
TATV pissed people off because it was supposed to be Enterprise's finale and instead we got a TNG episode. Had it been done as an ordinary episode, the backlash would likely have lessened by half.
Plus Tucker's death was a joke, it made the crew look like idiots, no security around when enemies board the ship??? Please!
The episode was so bad even the novelverse corrected it lol
 
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It’s probably the best plan, but without Dr Noah eating the scenery, and a Russian femme fatale, how can I be sure?
Can I do this for everything back to when Baslio and Ezra were a thing?
Well there was a femme fatale in the novel, but look who it turned out to be..
 
I think the new Klingon makeup is garbage but what does a makeup design have to do with the canon status of everything preceding it? That's just ridiculous to be kind. You can have California Raisin Klingons with lockjaw in DSC and still have Augment Klingons that look a lot more human in ENT and then later in TOS.

One doesn't eradicate the other from the continuity simply by existing.
 
Ohter things to complain about: Why is Earth sector 001? The Federation shouldn't entirely be human-focused...
(I'm still okay with that - it seems kinda' intuitive for new viewers)

Presumably it happened for the same reason Universal Coordinated Time is just re-branded Greenwich Mean Time. Someplace has to be 1. And since the other Federation powers seem to have accomodated to the Earth Starfleet, it makes sense to use their convention on the charts. (I wasn't a huge fan of ENT establishing this, but since Starfleet always seems to be majority-human, it's a defensible decision.)
 
The offices of the Federation President, the chamber of the Federation Council and Starfleet Command are all located on Earth so it appears that the signatories of the Federation Charter in 2161 agreed that since Earth played such a leading role in both the stabilization of the Alpha Quadrant and the war against the Romulans in the years leading up to the formation of the UFP that it should be the "capital" planet and location of the key governmental and defensive agencies.

Jonathan Archer threatened them all with another gazelle speech and there you have it. Earth is Sector 001. :)
 
I think the new Klingon makeup is garbage but what does a makeup design have to do with the canon status of everything preceding it? That's just ridiculous to be kind. You can have California Raisin Klingons with lockjaw in DSC and still have Augment Klingons that look a lot more human in ENT and then later in TOS.

One doesn't eradicate the other from the continuity simply by existing.

I still recall in 2001 fans claiming they stopped watching "Broken Bow" after a few mins because it featured a ridged forehead Klingon. One wonders if they got a heart attack just watching the trailer for Discovery.
 
I still recall in 2001 fans claiming they stopped watching "Broken Bow" after a few mins because it featured a ridged forehead Klingon. One wonders if they got a heart attack just watching the trailer for Discovery.
I remember that too. It didn’t stop them bitching about the rest of the series. They didn’t like an awful lot about a series weren’t watching, in great detail.
 
I remember that too. It didn’t stop them bitching about the rest of the series. They didn’t like an awful lot about a series weren’t watching, in great detail.

I can tell you a great deal about the Buffalo Bills, New York Jets and New England Patriots even though I'm not a fan of any of them. I am a Miami Dolphins fan. Being a Star Trek fan, I can tell you a great deal about Discovery even though I didn't finish the show.

I take a greater interest when something is directly connected to something I love. Even if it is garbage.
 
I can tell you a great deal about the Buffalo Bills, New York Jets and New England Patriots even though I'm not a fan of any of them. I am a Miami Dolphins fan. Being a Star Trek fan, I can tell you a great deal about Discovery even though I didn't finish the show.

I take a greater interest when something is directly connected to something I love. Even if it is garbage.

Fair point. I have no love for the reboot movies, but I watched them anyway, and moaned about the bits that grate. I stop short though, of claiming to be through with it when I know darned well I'll be back to watch anything with Star Trek in the title.
 
I can tell you a great deal about the Buffalo Bills, New York Jets and New England Patriots even though I'm not a fan of any of them. I am a Miami Dolphins fan. Being a Star Trek fan, I can tell you a great deal about Discovery even though I didn't finish the show.

I take a greater interest when something is directly connected to something I love. Even if it is garbage.

Ah, but do you go to forums of those other teams fan sites to tell them just how garbage they are?
 
Fair point. I have no love for the reboot movies, but I watched them anyway, and moaned about the bits that grate. I stop short though, of claiming to be through with it when I know darned well I'll be back to watch anything with Star Trek in the title.

I do plan on giving Discovery another chance to wow me next season. Though it does have a shorter rope than the first season had.
 
Talking shit is part of the fun, as long as it isn't taken too far.

It's a fine line. Especially if you're talking shit in someone else's house. ;-)
My boards usually have a separate section where there are far fewer rules regarding trash talking. Kind of like TNZ here but sports shit talk. lol.
 
Trash talking a version of Trek you don't like is more like bitching* about your team having a crappy season than trash talking a rival team. ;)

Why is "bitching:" not recognized by my spellchecker?????????
 
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