The Avatar paradox.

[Butters]

I don’t get the criticism of the story at all. Complete loss as to what was so bad about it, and every criticism seems to call back to similar stories that were better. I haven’t seen Pocahontas, and I saw dances with wolves when it was released to video rental. It was long and boring.

Avatar was, at absolute worst, an OK movie.

 

[crookeddy]

I don’t get the criticism of the story at all. Complete loss as to what was so bad about it, and every criticism seems to call back to similar stories that were better. I haven’t seen Pocahontas, and I saw dances with wolves when it was released to video rental. It was long and boring.

Avatar was, at absolute worst, an OK movie.

I believe that people mostly hate on it because of how popular it was. Had it made $200 million instead of $700 it would be remembered as a good movie.

 

[Butters]

I believe that people mostly hate on it because of how popular it was. Had it made $200 million instead of $700 it would be remembered as a good movie.

You might be right there. I suppose it could piss off some folk, how a ton of people could go see a film, enjoy it, tell their friends about it, and not even realise that it wasn’t even a good story. Where’s the justice in that!

 

[GreenDragonKnight]

People think Rose is a villain?

I mean, okay, she cheats on her fiance, but I thought the film made it abundantly clear that there was no serious love lost there in any case, and by the time she does anything serious I think she's already made up her mind to leave him.

Well you know: the question has been asked many times why she didn't get Jack up onto that door with her or why she didn't - if there wasn't enough room - jump into the water with him. I mean, she was willing to give up her place in the life boat for him, why stop there?

But really, it's the old Rose a lot of people have a problem with: why would she throw away a jewel that was worth millions when she could have given it to her family...? I mean, surely they could have used a few million...

 

[Gaith]

As with Dances With Wolves (a.k.a. Avatar part I), it was a huge success at first but did not withstand the test of time. Not like the Godfather or Casablanca or some of these classics that are still, decades later loved and respected

1) Well, "not loved like The Godfather or Casablanca decades later" describes about 99.99% of all movies.
2) Ha, ha, Avatar has a similar plot to Dances With Wolves, and you're oh, so very clever and special for being the first person on Earth to point that out or make a potshot out of it. Do you know that many of Shakespeare's most beloved works were remakes/rewrites of existing stories? Or that George Orwell based much of Animal Farm and Nineteen Eighty-Four on the Stalinist dictatorship? Did you know that Psycho copied much of its plot from a book by the same name? What hacks, all!
3) Unless we're talking about Nazis, or sons of mob bosses thinking about joining the family business, neither Casablanca nor The Godfather personally challenge their audiences, do they?
4) Nor do they really have any female characters with much agency, eh?

 

[DonIago]

Well you know: the question has been asked many times why she didn't get Jack up onto that door with her or why she didn't - if there wasn't enough room - jump into the water with him. I mean, she was willing to give up her place in the life boat for him, why stop there?

But really, it's the old Rose a lot of people have a problem with: why would she throw away a jewel that was worth millions when she could have given it to her family...? I mean, surely they could have used a few million...

I believe the phrase that applies here is "missing the point"...