So much for the 3 year guarantee.
Spoilers Avengers: Infinity War grade and discussion thread
- Thread starter The Nth Doctor
- Start date
The dwarf, Eitri, will gladly oversee the making of another Gauntlet to fix things, I'd imagine.
Overall, I gave it a "B". I enjoyed it. I didn't enjoy it as much as I did "Black Panther". But I enjoyed it. And yes, I had some issues with the narrative, including Thanos' reason for using the stones.
I also found it odd that the original Avengers, along with Rhodey were spared. Namely, most of the pre-"Avengers" characters. It reminded me of how Joss Whedon made sure that the original Scoobies all survived the series finale of "Buffy".
I also found it odd that the original Avengers, along with Rhodey were spared. Namely, most of the pre-"Avengers" characters. It reminded me of how Joss Whedon made sure that the original Scoobies all survived the series finale of "Buffy".
They might have been. We never really saw where they were from originally, with the possible exception of the Soul Stone. The Space Stone was owned by the Asgardians and buried on Earth. The Reality Stone was either with the Dark Elves or Asgardians (not sure which) and sent to an alternate dimension before given to the Collector. The Power Stone was also collected by the Collector and we don't know where he got it from. The Mind Stone was apparently possessed by Thanos and given to Loki to help him get the Space Stone. We don't know where he got it from. The Time Stone was obtained, possibly the Ancient One, who knows where. It could have been in another dimension for all we know. Certainly not limited to the Milky Way.
I will point out the comics have all the major species in their own separate galaxies, but the movie universe does seem to keep things to the same galaxy for the most part.
I was trying to figure out what the amount of time the movie took place over. I thought it was several days, but it could have been one. Do you have a particular reason to think it was one day?
Once again, until recently, they were not easy to find, with the Aether and possibly the Eye of Agamotto in separate dimensions. Basically, the Collector and Asgardians made Thanos's job easier.
I'm now wondering if Gamora will play the play the role in the movie associated with Adam Warlock in the comics, returning from the Soul Stone to deliver the killing blow to Thanos.
Oh, I hadn't thought of that. She even came out of the Soulworld in the comics, albeit with the aid of Adam Warlock. I wonder if Captain Marvel might play a part in bringing Gamora out of there (I would've said Dr. Strange, but he's among the dead).
About it being a day? I got that from Thanos, after he collected most of the stones and before he headed to Wakanda.
The Wakanda battle confuses me.
Plan B is for Wanda to destroy the Mind Stone, killing Vision.
Plan A is a war that poses an existential threat to Wakanda, not to mention half the universe, and will kill thousands even in the best case.
Um, isn’t that a little backwards? How does it make sense to go to war when it can be averted for the cost of a single life?
Plan B is for Wanda to destroy the Mind Stone, killing Vision.
Plan A is a war that poses an existential threat to Wakanda, not to mention half the universe, and will kill thousands even in the best case.
Um, isn’t that a little backwards? How does it make sense to go to war when it can be averted for the cost of a single life?
"We don't trade lives."
Steve Rogers
Steve Rogers
I think if Dr. Strange didn't get taken by Ebony Maw that he could have hid Vision in the mirror dimension
Tony was right though. If the battle happened on earth we'd probably have no moon lol. It was a good decision to take the battle to Thanos
I'm sad Xander is gone. Lots of good people there like John C Reilly and Glen Close's characters
I'm wondering how Tony and Nebula get to earth. She probably has a ship or they take the Milano(Starlords) ship
Also yes. Stupid. Stupid Starlord. Did anyone think to cut off Thano's arm?
I heard audible gasps when Tony was stabbed with the blade weapon he deployed. He almost bit it.
I think Tom Holland's " I don't want to go" beat David Tennants haha. The way he faded away with the glossed over eyes was heavy.
but we know he'll be back since the Spider-man sequel is supposed to happen moments after Avengers 4
A bit disappointed we didn't get Hulk even though we saw him in the trailer running alongside other Avengers.
There was even a toy of Hulk busting out of the hulk buster AND Banner tinkering with the Hulk buster.
Speaking of that. How did the Hulk buster Mark 2 arrive in Wakanda? Who authorized it when Stark was in space?
Tony was right though. If the battle happened on earth we'd probably have no moon lol. It was a good decision to take the battle to Thanos
I'm sad Xander is gone. Lots of good people there like John C Reilly and Glen Close's characters
I'm wondering how Tony and Nebula get to earth. She probably has a ship or they take the Milano(Starlords) ship
Also yes. Stupid. Stupid Starlord. Did anyone think to cut off Thano's arm?
I heard audible gasps when Tony was stabbed with the blade weapon he deployed. He almost bit it.
I think Tom Holland's " I don't want to go" beat David Tennants haha. The way he faded away with the glossed over eyes was heavy.
but we know he'll be back since the Spider-man sequel is supposed to happen moments after Avengers 4
A bit disappointed we didn't get Hulk even though we saw him in the trailer running alongside other Avengers.
There was even a toy of Hulk busting out of the hulk buster AND Banner tinkering with the Hulk buster.
Speaking of that. How did the Hulk buster Mark 2 arrive in Wakanda? Who authorized it when Stark was in space?
Nothing after Rhodey cut off Ross was authorized, so they probably just took the Hulkbuster armor because they thought it might be useful. If you're going to get court-martialed anyway, you might as well go all out right?
Yeah. There was probably 10-15 minutes worth of footage cut
It could have been some trailer digital trickery and Hulk was never intended to appear in Wakanda.
I'm noticing Marvel is getting real good at hiding things and masking actual scenes vs what we see in the trailers
Case in point- Spider-man meeting Dr.Strange in the trailer VS on screen. The background has been completely redone
Also in Thor Raganrok. Totally different scene when Hela destroys Mjonir.
We never saw this scene either. A little exchange with Natasha and Banner was cut.
It could have been some trailer digital trickery and Hulk was never intended to appear in Wakanda.
I'm noticing Marvel is getting real good at hiding things and masking actual scenes vs what we see in the trailers
Case in point- Spider-man meeting Dr.Strange in the trailer VS on screen. The background has been completely redone
Also in Thor Raganrok. Totally different scene when Hela destroys Mjonir.
We never saw this scene either. A little exchange with Natasha and Banner was cut.
My understanding is that they weren't trying to kill Vision. They were compromising - they were unwilling to kill Vision. The nature of his origin gave them an option, the vision stone was one element which was put into him, along with Ultron, Bruce Banner, Tony Stark, Jarvis, and some other things. They thought if they removed the stone, they might be enough left for Vision to exist. Destroy the stone, keep what remains, praying that there was enough of Vision left. However, there was a complication. His creators over-complicated the process of integration, making it nigh impossible to remove the stone.
The fight in Wakanda was a delaying tactic, giving time for Shuri to remove the stone. However, as stated above, she was given an impossible task because of poor integration of components.
The fight in Wakanda was a delaying tactic, giving time for Shuri to remove the stone. However, as stated above, she was given an impossible task because of poor integration of components.
Except Hawkeye, who was not in the movie.
I gave it an A for the whole concept of bringing together the rich and diverse MCU. Although my understanding was that this was a two-parter, I was stunned by the ending.
The Power Stone was the one that Star-Lord found at the beginning of GotG and drove most of that movie's plot.
The Reality Stone was ordered buried "where no one will find it" by Odin's father Bor. This is seemingly in one of the "realms" connected through the convergence, since a portal to it opens up for Jane to find it in.
Supposedly GotG is implied to take place in Andromeda, and each of the Nine Realms are shown to be in different galaxies.
Great movie! Really enjoyed it! Bringing all those heroes together, Thanos being a villain with enough depth, the humor not overshadowing the seriousness, enjoyed every bit. Unexpected ending, although if I'd known this was a two-parter, then I'd've expected something like this.
One niggle though. While the Mind Stone was taken as being the last (and perhaps most powerful?) one, my thinking has always been that the Time Stone is the most powerful. Because so long as you're alive and have the time stone, you can change things to have whatever outcome most suits. You can go back if things don't work out and try again. So the heroes really needed to protect or destroy the Time Stone more than any of the other stones.
One niggle though. While the Mind Stone was taken as being the last (and perhaps most powerful?) one, my thinking has always been that the Time Stone is the most powerful. Because so long as you're alive and have the time stone, you can change things to have whatever outcome most suits. You can go back if things don't work out and try again. So the heroes really needed to protect or destroy the Time Stone more than any of the other stones.
Say what you will about Thanos, he did reduce unemployment by 50%
I do wonder a bit how carefully he crafted his intentions. "Half of all life" could easily wipe out civilization as we know it, considering we make up less than 1% of all the living creatures on earth. Hell, we don't even make up 1% of the life in our own bodies if you're counting each individual organism as a single life.
I think he's implicitly talking about sapient life only. Also, he's not called "The Mad Titan Thanos" for his temperament.
