Spoilers Avengers: Infinity War grade and discussion thread
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Felt a bit like Doctor Who in some points. I guess it's the story beats.
" I don't want to go"
End of the universe and some people have been erased. They aren't forgotten though
I hope Amy Pond can remember everyone
Makes you wonder, are they going to bring characters back in the next film only to kill them off again? Who is actually dead permanently?
I imagine everyone who didn't die in this movie are likely candidates to meet a permanent end in the next one.
I imagine everyone who didn't die in this movie are likely candidates to meet a permanent end in the next one.
I thought it was a great movie, but as others stated earlier, we know the powers that be have their collective fingers right by the reset button, and it will be pressed next movie. At least we get the journey of finding out how it will happen. We just know the end result, that most if not all the characters who “died” will be back. Just like the comics. Somehow it may involve the time stone and that to me brings up a flaw: Strange had this time stone all this time; he didn’t have any qualms using it to go forward and see alternate futures. So why didn’t he just use it to go back to when Thanos originally got the gauntlet? Or before Star Lord screwed up and hit Thanos in anger? Or before Thanos got the power stone from Xandar? Or...
See where that road leads down? Thanos used to to “redo” the last scene with Vision so why can’t Strange?
It’s why I hate using time travel or the ability to as a plot device. The can of worms isn’t worth the “kewl” factor of it.
On a side note, my friends young son who loves Spidey was bawling his eyes out and I accidentally laughed when he said “I don’t care if they killed other people but why Spider-Man?!”
See where that road leads down? Thanos used to to “redo” the last scene with Vision so why can’t Strange?
It’s why I hate using time travel or the ability to as a plot device. The can of worms isn’t worth the “kewl” factor of it.
On a side note, my friends young son who loves Spidey was bawling his eyes out and I accidentally laughed when he said “I don’t care if they killed other people but why Spider-Man?!”
Because Odin also noted Thor used Mjölnir to channel his power and Thor said he needed a weapon to battle Thanos specifically.
I'm guessing whoever died before the finger snap stays dead.
But Strange saw the future and there was only one outcome where they could win, not multiple so maybe going back in time made no difference.
Maybe.
There was never an explanation given why and keep in mind, he didn’t look into the future until titan. At the beginning of the movie or before getting to Titan he could have said “screw this Thanos, if he is coming for the stone I’ll just go back in time and stop him from getting the gauntlet/power stone/reality Stone/soul stone/ever being born/disabling him in his teenage years”...or like Thanos did with Vision, as soon as star lord started punching Thanos, Strange shoulda opened the Eye and used the stone to go back 60 seconds and tell Star Lord to get back.
It’s not a deal breaker, I just wish time travel wasn’t a plot device. It gets too bogged down in paradoxes, what if’s etc
Exhibit A would be “Endgame” in voyager.
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Absolutely loved it and probably would have sat and watched it again.
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Thanos was awesome. They did a great job juggling all the characters. The 50% of characters that were killed off when Thanos snaps his fingers are the opposite of who I thought would get it. Looks like Avengers 4 will be an original crew send off flick now that most of the newbies are dead. Time for the Celestial battle!
Thanos was awesome. They did a great job juggling all the characters. The 50% of characters that were killed off when Thanos snaps his fingers are the opposite of who I thought would get it. Looks like Avengers 4 will be an original crew send off flick now that most of the newbies are dead. Time for the Celestial battle!
I saw it last night and it was great. Epic film.
Thanos was definitely the all-star. Amazing performance by Josh Brolin. They actually made a genocidal madman as sympathetic as possible.
Thanos was definitely the all-star. Amazing performance by Josh Brolin. They actually made a genocidal madman as sympathetic as possible.
King of Asgard is ceremonial...and Asgard no longer exists. As Thor said, "Asgard is not a place. It never was. This could be Asgard. Asgard is where our people stand." Your claim that "he should be powerful enough" is simply you thinking he should be powerful, not based on any evidence in the films.
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because Strange saw a single future in which they beat Thanos. And I'm betting that achieving that victory means letting Thanos win here. There is no way that Strange put so much emphasis on his being willing to let Stark and Parker die if it protected the Time Stone and then promptly surrendered it when Tony's life was threatened. Strange is playing the long game. Giving up the stone is part of the path to whatever victory he saw.
That’s one way to look at it.
The only other thing I thought of was from Dr Strange; if I recall wasn’t he warned that using the Eye in such a way was technically bending the rules? I may have to back and see.
Either way great movie overall. Doesn’t detract for me, just more of a minor flaw. That and the blatant reset button usage impending upon us. I’m gonna go see it again for sure
How fucking convenient for Kevin Feige. Hela was powerful enough to destroy Thor's hammer on Earth. Odin's power was on display in the Frost Giants' realm. But while in the midst of the remaining Asgardians, Thor isn't powerful enough to face Thanos.
Oh . . . and why did Jeremy Renner give up appearing in "Mission: Impossible Fallout"? Because I think he made a bad mistake.
This franchise is becoming increasingly frustrating for me. I thought the bad years of the MCU was behind me with "Black Panther". And now . . . Christ!
Uh-huh. At this point, I think you just like to complain.
Yeah I thought that shot did look pretty bad, and kinda took me out of that pivotel moment. War Machine looked really CG, it was clearly a green screen, and Banner in the Hulkbuster in particular looked unfinished. Mark Ruffalo's head was just stuck on to it
Also noticed how the timeline works normally again with this film (after the Homecoming debacle) It's been 2 years since Civil War (like in real life- 2016/18) and Iron Man said it was 6 years since New York (like in real life- 2012/18)
Ignoring that weird "8 years later" thing in Homecoming.
