Netflix greenlights new "Lost in Space"

[Galileo7]

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'60s "camp" infected prime-time and the 20th Century Fox lot with the success of BATMAN, so unfortunately Irwin Allen allowed Lost In Space (and Voyage To The Bottom Of The Sea) to be "camp" in it's second season and third season.

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[Jadeb]

Speaking of Will's test failure, did we happen to see or find out just what the files were that Maureen sent, and to who? I don't think we did, and it could lead to some interesting consequences if they ever find the Resolute or Earth again. Hopefully they won't forget about that.

We didn't. And I'm not worried they will forget about it. They seem to have laid the groundwork for this series very carefully. I loved how the show balanced the episodic and arc-based storytelling. By the end of the season, I was fully satisfied with the story they had told -- the family had gone on a meaningful personal journey -- even though there are still many questions that need answers. That's quality cliffhanger storytelling.

 

[Jadeb]

As an aside, I rewatched the first episode after having seen much of the rest of the season and found it very rewarding.

 

[thribs]

I hear they want to time jump for season 2. Can't be that much of a jump since they would have to replace Will.

 

[Jadeb]

That would be weird. Maybe they're just trying to find some way to defeat the forthcoming puberty monster. Young Will is just a few days shy of 13. Depending on how long it takes to resume production, he may have changed enough to give the lie to the notion it's picking up right where it left off.

 

[Mudd]

Yeah, at his age they have to jump forward a year or two between seasons.

 

[Maurice]

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This will give away a lot of stuff, so if you haven't seen and plan to watch the show, this may ruin some moments.

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[Gepard]

Image Engine must be one of the best VFX houses working today. I'm consistently impressed by their output.

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

@Australis did you visit the official LIS reboot page on facebook? My cover's blown haha.

Anyone have any ideas on how the Jupiters were supposed to expand?

They showed a small part of it in an episode but not fully what the popout is meant to do.

Also people are going stupid over Parker Posey. She's doing a fantastic job and some people are just going stupid about her character and wanting her off the show.

For instance
https://www.inverse.com/article/43719-lost-in-space-dr-smith-netflix-parker-posey-fans

Yeah whatever guys get over it.

Oh and some fun... I found this.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

Oh and some fun... I found this.
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Yeah. Looks like B-9 may be out of work for the foreseeable future....

 

[Asbo Zaprudder]

Parker Posey's portrayal of a manipulative, warped sociopath is one of the best things in the new show.

 

[Mudd]

Absolutely.

 

[B.J.]

Anyone have any ideas on how the Jupiters were supposed to expand?

They showed a small part of it in an episode but not fully what the popout is meant to do.

I don't think it's anything more than what an RV popout is, just to give them more space. I'm a little fuzzy on what the floor plan looks like, so I don't know if it's the bedrooms or something else.

 

[Gryffindorian]

Parker Posey's portrayal of a manipulative, warped sociopath is one of the best things in the new show.

I agree. She's a great actress. To me, she's more of a devious, self-serving saboteur than a classic villain. I did not see the original series, so I don't know how this current one compares to the original "canon."

One thing that puzzles me about this series is the timeline before they were even aboard the Resolute. Apparently, there was an asteroid that caused a major cataclysm on earth, so the humans had to find another world to colonize. Because not everyone could leave the planet, only selected individuals who were highly trained and skilled and who passed a series of trials were allowed to join the Resolute crew. Now, am I to assume that between the asteroid strike and the events on the show, only a few years have passed? Has humanity become so highly sophisticated that they've discovered faster-than-light travel, built gigantic space vessels and spacecraft? Realistically, it would take years, if not decades, of research and development, even if humans had the proper resources on hand.

 

[Jadeb]

One thing that puzzles me about this series is the timeline before they were even aboard the Resolute. Apparently, there was an asteroid that caused a major cataclysm on earth, so the humans had to find another world to colonize. Because not everyone could leave the planet, only selected individuals who were highly trained and skilled and who passed a series of trials were allowed to join the Resolute crew. Now, am I to assume that between the asteroid strike and the events on the show, only a few years have passed? Has humanity become so highly sophisticated that they've discovered faster-than-light travel, built gigantic space vessels and spacecraft? Realistically, it would take years, if not decades, of research and development, even if humans had the proper resources on hand.

Dr. Smith, in the old show, started out as a serious spy and saboteur before he became a silly, camp villain. Parker Posey's Smith has different motivations but otherwise could be seen as a direct continuation of the sinister original version that only existed for a few episodes. In many ways, they are *remarkably* similar even though the character has been sex swapped.

Personally, I love that direct connection, but I can understand why some newcomers to the show find the new Smith lacking in motivation. These days, you don't get many villains who are so, well, straight-up villainous. I do wonder how they will sustain the character going forward, but I have faith the showrunners will find a way, and that they will tell us more about her as we go along. (It's the sort of trust I lost for Discovery, and it's nice to have it back.)

I like this show enough that I'm going to stick with spoiler text for your other question.

Spoiler

They hint that the robot attacks because we have stolen the spaceflight technology/done something bad to bring this on ourselves. Have to wait for season 2 for more answers.

The question of how we have this sort of space travel only 30 years from now hadn't even occurred to me while I was watching. I thought it was brilliant how they dropped in the answer to inform the rest of the narrative. That's how you do arc storytelling.

 

[Gary7]

Yeah. Looks like B-9 may be out of work for the foreseeable future....

It's just suffering grief after seeing the reboot.

I'm not warming up to this series. The acting is mostly flat, stiff... and they're spending way too much time on "interpersonal trivialities." Too slow moving. And just the sheer stupidity of people. Almost as bad as the nitwits in Prometheus. And that Dr. Smith portrayal just sucks. A woman who was a total washout in her previous life. Just not believable what she's pulling off.

Oh and their handling of the damaged tanker? The guy was mortally wounded. Chances of survival next to nil. But even still, after lifting up the tanker, why not just set it back down so that it's mostly plugged up again by the rock? NITWITS! They leave it upright so it just sheds a huge percentage of the fuel. And as an aside, methane for fuel? What idiot conceived of that ridiculous idea for Jupiter engine fuel?

The robot is one of the redeeming qualities, despite the ridiculously far-fetched narrative of it being "conveniently reset" so that anyone who is there upon completion of its restoration after significant damage is suddenly the "master" and somehow manages to read thoughts for commands. I'm assuming that eventually it will have another "reboot" so Dr. Smith isn't controlling it. Maybe at some future point, it'll learn to manipulate its "face scanner" to mimic human expressions.

 

[Gary7]

Dr. Smith, in the old show, started out as a serious spy and saboteur before he became a silly, camp villain. Parker Posey's Smith has different motivations but otherwise could be seen as a direct continuation of the sinister original version that only existed for a few episodes. In many ways, they are *remarkably* similar even though the character has been sex swapped.

Personally, I love that direct connection, but I can understand why some newcomers to the show find the new Smith lacking in motivation. These days, you don't get many villains who are so, well, straight-up villainous. I do wonder how they will sustain the character going forward, but I have faith the showrunners will find a way, and that they will tell us more about her as we go along. (It's the sort of trust I lost for Discovery, and it's nice to have it back.)

I like this show enough that I'm going to stick with spoiler text for your other question.

I think it was a terrible mistake to characterize the woman as a wash-up in the start... because I really don't see the plausibility in her cleverness being able to insert herself into the Resolute survivor group in a reasonable way where she can "catch up" and find a way to be useful. Since the original Dr. Smith was a major component to the original series, the implication is that this new one isn't going to be knocked off or marginalized. The original Dr. Smith was always scheming, willing to sacrifice everyone else for his own interests if it came down to it. So somehow this new Dr. Smith is going to continue that legacy. If they're not careful, it'll get old pretty quickly. Need to have a careful balance on when/how she exercises her opportunism that will put others in jeopardy. The way they're doing it so far, like her mental games with Angela... it's not going to work for the long haul.

 

[B.J.]

And as an aside, methane for fuel? What idiot conceived of that ridiculous idea for Jupiter engine fuel?

After a quick search, apparently NASA and SpaceX, at the very least.

 

[Gary7]

After a quick search, apparently NASA and SpaceX, at the very least.

Yes, but that's for a very different kind of engine. One that has "stages" that separate and primarily as power to achieve Earth orbit. ONCE. The Jupiter 2 is a very different kind of spacecraft and capable of traveling significantly further distances. I just can't believe it would be powered by methane...

 

[Australis]

One thing that puzzles me about this series is the timeline before they were even aboard the Resolute. Apparently, there was an asteroid that caused a major cataclysm on earth, so the humans had to find another world to colonize. Because not everyone could leave the planet, only selected individuals who were highly trained and skilled and who passed a series of trials were allowed to join the Resolute crew. Now, am I to assume that between the asteroid strike and the events on the show, only a few years have passed? Has humanity become so highly sophisticated that they've discovered faster-than-light travel, built gigantic space vessels and spacecraft? Realistically, it would take years, if not decades, of research and development, even if humans had the proper resources on hand.

No, I think journeys to ACentauri were already happening before the strike. But something happened for them to want to speed the process up, and there's a mysterious bit in the last ep(>) where two high ups in the shipping company are overheard by Smith.