I've only seen a few episodes of the original, mostly when I was a kid, and I am enjoying the show immensely. It has adventure and discovery that a certain other franchise show is sorely lacking.
Visual Effects in Discovery
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I've only seen a few episodes of the original, mostly when I was a kid, and I am enjoying the show immensely. It has adventure and discovery that a certain other franchise show is sorely lacking.
Well, Pixomondo is leaving shots from 'Discovery' suspiciously out of their website.
But to be perfectly honest: Those guys apparently also did the vfx for "Red Tails" and "Justice League". So it's not as if they hadn't done shitty work before. I might be in a minority here, but I also think the vfx work on "Into Darkness" was pretty dissapointing - like, it at least looked like the render was finished, but overall, the camera movements, and movements of elements in shots were extremely fake looking.
I think their best work might actually be "Game of Thrones" - when they composite CGI elements into real shots. Those are coincidentally also the same typoe of shot on DIS that usually look pretty good. But suspiciously whenever the entire shot is cgi - even in things like "Amazing Spider-Man 2" - things look very fake. At least from what I can see on their demo reels:
http://www.pixomondo.com/2017-summer-reel/
http://www.pixomondo.com/
I know I've said it before, but I think the smeary filters they put the space combat shots through - along with the weirdly close cropping so you never get to see the ships travel through space - unintentionally creates the same "tilt-shift" effect that is consciously used in photography to make things look much smaller than they are. As a result, the ships in Discovery often feel much more like models to me than the actual models did in the earlier Trek series.
Justice League had IMO some of the worst special effects I have ever seen in a movie! Let alone a major blockbuster one!
But that movie was plagued by production issues that make look Discovery's behind-the-scenes struggles look like a sunday afternoon...
I think that is probably the most realistic explanation so far. The creators of DIS simply underestimated the quanitity of vfx that need to be done by a mile.
Even with additional money, you never gonna' make up for such a gross miscalculation. I doubt anyone wanted DIS's fx look like the way they do. It was just the best result they were capable of delivering under the given circumstances.
Interesting side note (completely different topic, but I'm not gonna' post a third message in a row):
IMO it seems like the late season vfx tried to make up a lot for the previous criticisms: There was still wonky stuff (the Charon chasing the Buran...). But overall,, their approach seemed more "traditional":
We got the first actual beauty shots/establishing shots for our starships. We saw the Discovery at regular warp on the end.
And IMO: Very subtle, but when the klingon fleet approached Earth (ugh... from a story-wise perespective), they actually tried REALLY HARD to make the fleet look more like "traditional" klingon ships: They chose to put those models most resembling the traditional klingon ship styles in the foreground, even changed the illumination on them a little so they looked like a more traditional main body/nacelles/extended forward bridge combination (No sight of the misshapened "D7" ship). And gave all the klingon starships a more traditional grey hull plating, instead of the funky colored blue/green/yellow surfaces they had before.
The difference was so stark, that I first thought they created new starships. But they just used the most "traditional" looking background ones from "Battle of the binary stars", but noticably changed them even more to fit with prime universe aesthetics.
IMO it wouldn't be unreasonable to assume, that visually, from this point forward, the show will be trying to capture the aesthetics of classic Trek at least incrementally a bit more.
I have to admit, at no point did I suspect Lorca or Burnham secretly had a mustache.
I feel like the only person in the world who loves that movie.
Discovery Season 1's VFX were underbid, by how much, I don't know.
I love it, too. But I definitely don't love it because its a masterpiece of filmmaking or anything, it's just an enjoyable movie to watch that makes me have feelings by the end.
As a kid who grew up watching TV from 1963 on, I decided to do an all day binge watch of the entire Netflix "Lost in Space" this past Monday...
Probably will do same sometime next week
I've had no issue getting into the show, and I had limited exposure to the original.
I saw various episodes of the original LiS over the years, and always found it to be laughable. In contrast, I am thoroughly enjoying the Netflix reboot (only into the second episode so far).
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I have vague memories of it, but I certainly didn't hate it. I liked a lot of the design work on it.
And, I'll probably be contradictory, but I don't really count watching the film back in high school as the same as watching the original show. I don't really equate the two.
i really love the robot(s) in the film, they still stand out to me, also appreciate some of the costume work and the design of the ship itself. all of which i think is more interesting than the netflix series, but two totally different approaches.
all the good stuff i remember from that movie is washed away by matt leblanc squinting through the entire runtime to look like a tough guy.
"Into the Forest" had some really wonky depth-of-field effects on the Klingon Bridge. The big ones were a wild misunderstanding of how reflections work, and a shot where the bridge, Discovery, planet, and stars were all at different focal planes, as if Discovery were an actual eight-foot-model hanging out the window and not a huge ship miles away.
I like it quite a bit - watched my DVD of it the other week, in fact.
Liked LeBlanc in it, too.
Sorry, no.
If you are at least vaguely familiar with the show in any meaningful way, some of the callbacks to the original will make you go "Aha! So that's what that is!" If you have no familiarity at all with the original, those callbacks will make you go "Oh. I see."
I watched the first two episodes with my wife who has never actually seen any of the original and even she started grinning at their first "danger will robinson!" moment, if that tells you anything.
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