Donny's TOS Enterprise Interiors

[Donny]

For the tools actually in Engineering, that cabinet we see Scotty pull the Trident scanner out of in DDM (among other episodes) is big enough to hold drawers with the rest of the tools in it, and probably a lot more. Scotty probably has a clip on the wall of the cabinet to hold the scanner, for neatness' sake, though.

Actually, that cabinet Scotty pulls the Trident Scanner out of is not that big at all. The trident scanner is a pretty large tool, and takes up most of the space inside the cabinet. I'd love to keep all the tools in this cabinet, but there really isn't enough room.

[EDIT] I indeed just checked the scale of my trident scanner model and it is a little larger (about 20 inches long, whereas it measures 17 inches in TMoST) than it should be. I’ll scale it down appropriately tomorrow, but I doubt it will make much more room in the cabinet for all the tools.

 

[Rekkert]

What about a toolkit that's a modified reuse of the Medusan container? If they use Starfleet technology as TOS-R suggests, maybe it goes all the way down to the day to day stuff as a container. Besides, there's nothing more Trek than reusing props to save costs.

 

[Donny]

I like the second one for this (the two middle links).

Same.

 

[STEPhon IT]

As to your request for me to experiment with bridge station layout and lighting, I will do so at a later date. I do plan on revisiting the bridge at a later date to update some of the texturing work, so perhaps I will do some experimenting then. Stay tuned.

Thank you. That would be awesome. I had another image I was hoping to see someday the navigation console become both a science and Nav console for a science officer. I've seen on TOS officers tend to have dual roles on the bridge like Sulu performing helm duties and weapons, I would like to see a scanner mounted or retractable be on the nav console. What was on the nav would be smaller to accommodate the science buttons and switches.

Oh well... someday.

 

[Donny]

For the tools actually in Engineering, that cabinet we see Scotty pull the Trident scanner out of in DDM (among other episodes) is big enough to hold drawers with the rest of the tools in it, and probably a lot more. Scotty probably has a clip on the wall of the cabinet to hold the scanner, for neatness' sake, though.

So, after re-scaling my trident scanner to it's correct size, it actually freed up a lot of room in the cabinet for most of the remaining tools. Check it out:


It looks junky, but honestly it looks very TOS to me. The idea is that the walls of the cabinet are magnetic, so instead of needs for hooks, the metal (and transparent aluminum) tools just stick to the sides. Again, another very TOS idea. My original idea was to store all the tools in this cabinet anyway, but because I'd originally modeled the scanner at a scale too big, not much else would fit. Thoughts?

Oh, and the tools that didn't fit neatly inside, I've placed on the office table:

 

[Jedman67]

Thoughts?

I think that's awesome. Don't you?

 

[Tallguy]

It looks a lot like my garage...

 

[feek61]

So, after re-scaling my trident scanner to it's correct size, it actually freed up a lot of room in the cabinet for most of the remaining tools. Check it out:


It looks junky, but honestly it looks very TOS to me. The idea is that the walls of the cabinet are magnetic, so instead of needs for hooks, the metal (and transparent aluminum) tools just stick to the sides. Again, another very TOS idea. My original idea was to store all the tools in this cabinet anyway, but because I'd originally modeled the scanner at a scale too big, not much else would fit. Thoughts?

Oh, and the tools that didn't fit neatly inside, I've placed on the office table:

The proportions's look off and I think you have scaled the trident scanner too small now. The compartment should be more rectangular than it appears in your render.


post a picture

 

[Donny]

The proportions's look off and I think you have scaled the trident scanner too small now. The compartment should be more rectangular than it appears in your render.


post a picture

I think it was just a matter of camera perspective warping things. My cabinet is exactly 2 feet tall by 1.5 feet wide (the set builders had a habit of building things to nice round numbers ) Here is a shot of the cabinet taken from about the same angle as the "Day of the Dove" screencap. As for the trident scanner, it's exactly the same scale as it appears in "The Making of Star Trek", which measures the length as 17 inches

 

[feek61]

Ahh yes, that does look much better! Thanks for clarification

 

[lawman]

Strange. The position of the cabinet opening relative to Nimoy's height seems very different to me in those two screenshots, beyond what can be accounted for by perspective. Anyone else think so?

 

[Donny]

Strange. The position of the cabinet opening relative to Nimoy's height seems very different to me in those two screenshots, beyond what can be accounted for by perspective. Anyone else think so?

Nah, again, perspective. In the "Day of the Dove" he's standing much closer to the camera and about a foot/two feet away from the cabinet wall (consider his shadow). In the "The Ultimate Computer" screenshot, he's in line with the cabinet wall but a foot and a half to the right of it. That accounts for the difference. Perspective is weird.

 

[Maurice]

Nah, again, perspective. In the "Day of the Dove" he's standing much closer to the camera and about a foot/two feet away from the cabinet wall (consider his shadow). In the "The Ultimate Computer" screenshot, he's in line with the cabinet wall but a foot and a half to the right of it. That accounts for the difference. Perspective is weird.

Yes, but that acknowledged, your intercom and that little handled panel ARE a little low.

 

[Donny]

Yes, but that acknowledged, your intercom and that little handled panel ARE a little low.

I'd noticed that as well! Luckily, an easy fix.

 

[Maurice]

I figured it was more a tweak than anything.

And, for those who've never done it, what I did on that image is a common method of reverse engineering perpective.

 

[Donny]

I figured it was more a tweak than anything.

And, for those who've never done it, what I did on that image is a common method of reverse engineering perpective.

Indeed. Here are a couple of my "perspective engineering" images I created for figuring out the dimensions of the power converter...

 

[Maurice]

Indeed. Here are a couple of my "perspective engineering" images I created for figuring out the dimensions of the power converter...

Yep. And a lot of people don't know how to do the X to find the centerpoint trick to subdivide a plane or figure how things diminish over distance.

 

[FormerLurker]

The fun way is without a ruler.

 

[Donny]

Hey, guys. I've started on modeling the quarters and one of my goals is to model the bathroom accommodations on-board the Enterprise, and I posed a thread with questions regarding bathing/grooming onboard the TOS Enterprise here: https://www.trekbbs.com/threads/bathing-grooming-in-the-tos-era.293795/.

I invite everyone to go to that thread and join in on the fun of answering these tough questions.

 

[aridas sofia]

When working on deck plans pursuant to my cross section, I designed a toilet for this ship. Based on Alexander Kira’s study of defecation ergonomics, it was an Asian squat toilet. But based on it being in space and it being Star Trek, it was behind a swoosh door in the floor.

I am still determined to build one.

As far as a sink goes, the only time we saw a faucet, there was no sink. Which is either the coolest thing ever, or a serious design flaw. I’m assuming the counter top absorbed the water, or there is a wee gap were vertical meets horizontal and a bodacious sucky kind of vacuum thing pulls that nasty water in before it can go where it shouldn’t.

Future design is fun!