The new big bads would have to be demons, there are plenty of other supernatural DC baddies who aren't demons.
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^I didn't mean it so literally. I just meant it would be repetitive to limit themselves to big bads that involved both time travel and the supernatural. And it doesn't make sense to assume that just because one member of the ensemble is a demonologist/exorcist, that somehow requires the entire series to be based exclusively on his specialty from now on.
Interesting article on the focus of next season:
https://io9.gizmodo.com/well-be-seeing-more-myths-and-monsters-on-legends-of-to-1825104015
https://io9.gizmodo.com/well-be-seeing-more-myths-and-monsters-on-legends-of-to-1825104015
Annnnd... here's Phil Klemmer announcing that I was wrong:
http://tvline.com/2018/04/07/legends-of-tomorrow-season-3-finale-preview-mallus-showdown-team-exit/
Although in my defense, I wasn't saying they definitely wouldn't do another supernatural big bad, just that they didn't automatically have to. As for repetitiveness, this is a franchise that gave the Flash three consecutive speedster nemeses who turned out to be people the team thought of as allies, and gave the Green Arrow two consecutive nemeses with vendettas against him for killing their family members. So I guess I shouldn't be surprised.
In other news, I finally rewatched Vixen: The Movie, and LoT did retcon the events in Zambesi in 1992. In the animated version, Mari and Kuasa's mother Esi did bond with the totem and fight the warlord Eshu with animal powers, but still lost. But that's on top of the various other retcons the show has made since introducing Amaya -- like establishing that "Vixen" was a hereditary name rather than Cisco's coinage, and designing the totem as a single large metal piece rather than a set of individual stones (and teeth?) strung on a cord.
One thing LoT didn't change was Kuasa's accent. I thought that Anika Noni Rose had used an African-ish accent, but she actually used an American accent, although one with a lilt that suggested something more exotic.
That description sounds a bit like Lord of the Rings where elves and hobbits once lived on Earth before Man.
More like H.P. Lovecraft and his monstrous elder races. Although the idea that other kinds of beings ruled the Earth before humanity has been around since ancient mythology, e.g. the idea in Greek myth that humans were the latest and most degenerate of several species of the gods' creations that had successively occupied the Earth.
Oh, one more discrepancy between Vixen and Legends of Tomorrow: In Vixen season 2, Professor MacAlester said that Zambesi was in West Africa, but "Guest Starring John Noble" put it 14 km west of Mt. Kilimanjaro in Tanzania, which is on the east coast of Africa.
I wonder if Legends will have the greek or egyptian gods of ancient myth be "real"? For example, will the Legends fight a real Zeus or real Osiris?
Well, they've already established that Themyscira exists on Earth-1, which implies that the Greek gods existed too. And the existence of the Anansi (Spirit) Totem implies the existence of Anansi.
I wonder if it isn't time to give up the notion (which I realize the CW and the showrunners have promulgated) that the CW Seed animated shows are Arrowverse canon, at least in strict terms. The broad strokes may inform some of the live-action background, but apparently all the animated series contain significant inconsistencies with the live-action shows. (I even remember the showrunners admitting up front that the "Ray" animated show was not going to be consistent with "Crisis on Earth-X.") And if the live-action and animated "Constantine" series are inconsistent, I'd much prefer the NBC version were "real."
A lot of both. It was amazing.
I liked it that the mechanic of it was basically the same as the Sta-Puft Marshmallow Man -- it took the form of a benevolent image that popped into someone's head -- but on the side of good instead of evil.
So when they said they were letting the Time Bureau clean up the remaining anachronisms, does that include restoring the original events of 1992 Zambesi, or is the entirety of Vixen now removed from continuity?
It was never fully explained why the Legends kept running into their own ancestors and personal histories. They explained that the totems led them to Rory's father, basically, but how does that explain the anachronistic Dominator in Ray's childhood, or Stein's lookalike ancestor being an acolyte of Mallus?
I wasn't assuming anything, I was just talking about what I hope they'll do, not what I expect.
Cool, sounds like I'll be getting what I want.
They all exist in the comics, so there's a pretty good chance they could exist in the Arrowverse. I believe Zeus is usually a good guy in the comics, so I doubt they'd use him as a villain. I think Ares is usually the go to bad guy for the gods, but since he was the villain in Wonder Woman, I'm not sure if they'd use him.
Based on the "Previously on DC LoT ..." narrative, Darhk did say he wanted to save Nora and defeat Mallus, so I was confused last week when Darhk changed his mind at the last minute. But now it's understood that Nora's "ghost" influenced his decision.
I must have skipped an episode at some point. This was the first time I saw Jonah Hex, and yet Sara and the team were already acquainted with him when they made the jump to the Old West.
It was great to see Kuasa, Helen of Troy, and Jax team up with the legends to battle the combined armies of Romans, Vikings, and pirates.
And what an epic fight between a gigantic talking stuffed animal and a demon!
I must have skipped an episode at some point. This was the first time I saw Jonah Hex, and yet Sara and the team were already acquainted with him when they made the jump to the Old West.
It was great to see Kuasa, Helen of Troy, and Jax team up with the legends to battle the combined armies of Romans, Vikings, and pirates.
And what an epic fight between a gigantic talking stuffed animal and a demon!
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He's been in one episode per season. So you'd have to have missed two prior episodes.
I think it's both, lol. Beebo itself was one thing but when
I wonder how Maise-Richards Sellars is going to be on the show even if her character isn't. I have one theory is the character will stay but it will be the version of herself that has lived all those years and fulfilled her destiny and of course she somehow gets a younger body because of some plot kind of reason. That or Constantine is able to bring her back as a ghost.
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Who said her character won't return? Remember, she left the team at the start of the season, thinking she'd be staying in Zambesi from then on, but circumstances compelled her to return. Maybe the same thing will happen again. Just when she thought she was out, they drag her back in, etc. The fact that they didn't wipe her memory at the end suggests it'll still be a while before she finally makes the decision to forget.
Speaking of unresolved threads, it occurred to me that we still haven't seen the resolution of Sara's promise to prevent Zari's dystopian future. I guess they're saving that for the long term. Or maybe they want to see how the real-world effort to prevent a dystopia plays out.
Oh, and between "Barry" Obama's appearance last week and the reference to Gary's horrible blond wig looking "presidential," it's increasingly clear that Legends is just ignoring the whole "President Susan Brayden" thing.
(Honestly, I would love to see Lovell Adams-Gray's Barry Obama join the Legends...)
All season long, Mallus was touted as this formidable villain that could not be allowed to escape but In the end, he was a rather underwhelming villain. Basically, he was just a CGI "dragon" that flew around a bit before being defeated by a giant Beebo. The Darkhs were a more intimidating villain IMO because they actually did some nasty stuff and hurt the Legends in a few episodes.
Hopefully, since this is a time travel show, we will see Rip again.
But overall, a fun finale. Lots of a fun moments. Rory had some great lines as always. Loved seeing the return of Jax, Helen of Troy and Jonah Hex. Defeating the Big Bad with a giant Beebo was classic Legends silliness.
Hopefully, since this is a time travel show, we will see Rip again.
But overall, a fun finale. Lots of a fun moments. Rory had some great lines as always. Loved seeing the return of Jax, Helen of Troy and Jonah Hex. Defeating the Big Bad with a giant Beebo was classic Legends silliness.
Well, we did see some of the consequence of his escape -- as they said would happen in an earlier episode, Mallus's freedom means that the walls of time break down and all eras intermix, so you could have Romans, Vikings, and pirates invading the Old West. Presumably this was a microcosm for the more global effects of Mallus's escape, or for the effects that would've kicked in later if he hadn't been focusing his main attention on the Legends. And if he could demonically possess Caesar, Freydis, and Blackbeard all at the same time, then presumably he could possess many more people, perhaps eventually everyone on Earth. So while we weren't directly shown the danger of his escape, we could extrapolate it from what we were shown.
Phil Klemmer said in an interview that they'd been saving money over the season so they could spend it all on the finale, and it showed. Animating all that fur on giant Beebo must've been really expensive.
Anyway, I guess we're lucky Nate wasn't thinking of Voltron at just that moment. How much would it have cost them to license that?