I don't know. I liked having both those shows on at the same time.
If you could rewrite Voyager
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I don't know. I liked having both those shows on at the same time.
I see your point but they would both be political dramas. I could see it maybe for a season but I like the exploration component better than the political gamesmenship. Its why Voyager rates higher than DS9, at least for me.
I agree. It's natural to want elements of a show you like to be the template for other shows or to see failings because they are not, but DS9 is not Voyager. If it were it would spoil it for those who appreciated that difference. I liked the freedom Voyager had not having to answer to the 'infrastructure' (command and otherwise) of the Alpha Quadrant. Whereas DS9 could explore the complexities of territory and its politics Voyager didn't have to be tied down to that. I mean I enjoyed The Void very much, it was nice to see the crew of Voyager have, well friends. I enjoyed Year of Hell but I would have wished for neither to have stopped the journey home.
Oh, well the plot I had thought up was for Voyager to make it back home in S4 or something but they have to go back out there as part of a Federation Task Force to stop an invasion by the 8472 aliens (who made their introduction by totally annihilating a huge Borg Invasion fleet).
Them making it home only in the last season or last episode is too predictable. Having them get back to the Alpha Quadrant but have to leave again (but this time on purpose) would show that the premise had changed. And halfway through the show.
Them making it home only in the last season or last episode is too predictable. Having them get back to the Alpha Quadrant but have to leave again (but this time on purpose) would show that the premise had changed. And halfway through the show.
I would have sent them home after Equinox. Janeway is clearly rattled by what's she done. Put her back in the Alpha Quadant with her Starfleet, Maquis and unassimilated Borg crew.
And possibly new characters, if they wanted to change them.
Reading comments about FarScape makes me think of another way the series could've gone, that would be a major departure from what we got. Instead of a ship of people being abducted, what about just individuals from across the galaxy being transported the Array where the Caretaker is experimenting on them, looking for someone who could become his successor to look after the Ocampa, but with his time running short and a station that hasn't been as well maintained as it should've been then he can't complete his task. As such his equipment releases the captives who find themselves stuck with one another, but as the Caretaker's death gets steadily closer he sends out the remaining aliens on a ship that was integrated into the Array, so this small group must figure out where they are, how to work the ship, and how to work together in order to get everyone back home.
This way you could have a very diverse cast, mixing characters from species we know (such as a Romulan Centurion and a Cardassian Glinn) in with races no one has ever seen before, on a setting that breaks from the traditional look of Starfleet, so that the crew can have some good conflict amongst themselves with less uniformity, whilst there would also be the chance to explore the ship as much as the space they're in.
This way you could have a very diverse cast, mixing characters from species we know (such as a Romulan Centurion and a Cardassian Glinn) in with races no one has ever seen before, on a setting that breaks from the traditional look of Starfleet, so that the crew can have some good conflict amongst themselves with less uniformity, whilst there would also be the chance to explore the ship as much as the space they're in.
It does but then there was a mini-series and it ended...less badly.
I never saw that mini-series, was it good?
It was alright. Worth at least one watch.
Farscape: Peacekeeper Wars.
Thank you! I'll try to get it.
I had a similar idea, bringing in some elements of SGU as well in that the ship is automated and so huge that it could last the crew for the rest of their lives as well as so big they can do episodes just exploring the ship.
And the AI of the ship can model itself on Janeway's species, being this show's version of The Doctor except as the brain of the ship.
^ I was thinking that Janeway would be a ship's first officer and she and Tuvok were returning from a mission in a shuttlecraft or runabout when they were taken, so she takes it upon herself to assume command of the alien ship, with her Chief of Security backing her up. Ideally I'd love her to be the only human, but I know that would be seen as unacceptable so you could have another human or two in the mix, maybe a Starfleet freshman cadet (so they really are a rookie), or an archaeologist (the return of Vash perhaps?), or a deckhand from a civilian freighter (be interesting to see life in space outside of Starfleet), or even a couple of Maquis scouts (just to make things even more tense with a Cardassian onboard).
With a highly automated ship then there wouldn't be as much reliance on characters being tied to specific duties. Also we'd need to decide on the number of abducted aliens, would there new a few dozen to crew the ship but we only focus in on eight main characters, or would the ship be limited to a small crew of 10-12 who would all have their time to shine? Ideally I'd prefer the latter, so that they really have no one else to rely on except each other in order to survive and if any of them are killed during the journey then that loss would have an impact--also along the way they could pick up new shipmates, either for a short term arc (e.g. during their Year of Hell a Krenim officer defects to the ship, wanting to put an end to his Captain's obsession with 'correcting' the timeline) or as a new main character (Seven may well turn up at some point).
With a highly automated ship then there wouldn't be as much reliance on characters being tied to specific duties. Also we'd need to decide on the number of abducted aliens, would there new a few dozen to crew the ship but we only focus in on eight main characters, or would the ship be limited to a small crew of 10-12 who would all have their time to shine? Ideally I'd prefer the latter, so that they really have no one else to rely on except each other in order to survive and if any of them are killed during the journey then that loss would have an impact--also along the way they could pick up new shipmates, either for a short term arc (e.g. during their Year of Hell a Krenim officer defects to the ship, wanting to put an end to his Captain's obsession with 'correcting' the timeline) or as a new main character (Seven may well turn up at some point).
But that's okay, because there a corresponding group who won't spend a moment trying to figure these things out and realizing that it all can be fairly easily made to make sense.
Space magic...solution solved!
The big problem was DS9, as long as that show was on VOY couldn't go home. Lends more credence to Berman's feelings that the show should've been made after DS9.
