Year of Hell was quite harrowing, yet it is one of my favourite (two parts). I think though if it had been the theme for seven years it would've been bloody depressing.
If you could rewrite Voyager
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Yeah, even a whole season would be kind of sad, because many of my favorite stories are in season 4.
They're still using energy. And if they need to conserve energy, the logical thing to do would be to wear the same clothes and not use the replicator at all, or at least only use it for things that actually matter, like food.
That's why they rationed the replicators. Since we're talking about YoH, I just remembered one of the references. Janeway's pocketwatch: When she scolds Chakotay for the gift, I think she says
"This could mean a uniform or pair of boots." Chakotay replies "BUT KATHRYN! I replicated this months(before shtf) ago!"
"This could mean a uniform or pair of boots." Chakotay replies "BUT KATHRYN! I replicated this months(before shtf) ago!"
Which the show really needed to be at times, a tough hard slog that wore the crew down, so that their triumph over adversity and showing their spirit and drive to succeed shone through even brighter. Even if they'd done it for one year then it would've made a marked difference in the overall tone of the show from then on (it worked for ENT, mediocrity until S3 then quality improved significantly compared to what came before).
Unfortunately for them, it happened too late to save the show. Why did they need to make that asinine second season before realizing that they were on the wrong path is beyond me.
While I still think they could have shown a bit more privation over those seven years, I agree that it shouldn't have been put on too heavily, for that would have been too depressing, yes. Besides, it would strain credibility if they would have had 7 years worth' of year of hell level misery, and still survive.
But I think showing it on the level that, for example, to conserve energy the holodeck is only activated for matters that are actually useful, say tactical simulations or planning that Borg transwarp coil heist, and not for frivolous endeavors such as Fair Heaven, would have been acceptable. Let the crew become inventive in how they entertain themselves.
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But these are inherently silly comments for them to make. If Janeway was that concerned, then she could have just threw the pocketwatch in the replicator and turned it into a uniform shirt.
Again, it’s not what’s being replicated, it’s the energy being used to replicate things in the first place.
I think that kicking out Kes and adding Seven was a totally unnecessary and downright stupid move.
If the "writers" couldn't write for Kes, then they weren't doing their job and should have been fired. Besides that, it's strange that all of them suddenly lost their ability to write good Kes stories at the beginning of season 4. Before that, they had no problems in coming up with Kes stories.
I never liked NuBSG. Almost as boring as Stargate Universe.
It had nothing to do with her allergy.
She did develope an allergy for the glue which was used to attach the Ocampa ears to her head, that's why she all of a sudden changed her hairstyle at the end of season 3.
But the reason she was fired was that the producers wanted to "sex up" the show by adding a "sexy babe" to the series.
Since they were too greedy to have 10 main characters, one had to go. The first choice was Harry Kim.
But when a silly inside poll among the staff of a stupid glossy magazine showed actor Garret Wang as one of "the 50 most handsome", the producers changed their mind and dumped Kes instead.
Personally I didnt think it had anything to do with the actress at all. They clearly had a story arc for Kes and it wasn't finished by a long shot. For me this was about good old fashioned money. X dollars for actors. Bring in one...out with another. Only so much cash to go around.
I missed Kes and her leaving was jarring. I can't even describe how I felt about 'Fury'. I wish someone had stepped up and said 'Please no, think of the fans'. But after watching Endgame I'm not sure anyone was advocating for us or the franchise as a whole. Tjmo
I missed Kes and her leaving was jarring. I can't even describe how I felt about 'Fury'. I wish someone had stepped up and said 'Please no, think of the fans'. But after watching Endgame I'm not sure anyone was advocating for us or the franchise as a whole. Tjmo
Well I will say it gave her a chance to showcase her acting so it makes sense I guess.
I'd rather the Will Riker wannabe Tom Paris get killed off or kicked off than either Kes or Kim. Even with the addition of 7, I don't think the show got any better... well maybe for the manchilds who couldn't take their naughty eyes off of Jeri Ryan's Jeri's.
Ok so I've only played through Next Gen once (was not a huge fan but that's me) so I'm unsure what you mean by the Riker comment. Can you please explain for me. Thanks.
Can't agree, Ryan showed her acting ability on multiple occasions, she was of definite benefit to the show. Her character enabled the show to go places it wouldn't have without her.
That said, I thought turning Voyager into the Janeway-Seven-Doctor show was a mistake.
The rise of the EMH was the decline of the show for me. Seven may have monopolised a lot of screen time but it was almost always with her sidekick in tow, fortunately she was at least an interesting idea for a character with a personal journey (granted I wasn't thrilled that they axed Kes in favour of Seven, she had more potential than the infinite ensign).
Worst character in VOY.
