I think they just own the license. It that licence expires, CBS in theory could sell the license to a different studio. Which is unlikely since CBS and Viacom are part of Sumner Redstone's National Amusements and corporate synergy rules.
Spoilers Bonus scene from Season One Finale
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Well no, when Viacom split the rights to make movies were given to Paramount
Not knowing Viacom owns Paramount, when one of the biggest discussions in Hollywood right now is CBS and Viacom planning to merge together, throwing the future of the Star Trek movies into uncertainty, and then lecturing me on the movie rights... That's trolling to me.
Trolling isn't defined as disagreeing with you.
Can't wait for the lesson that diplomacy and peace can only survive if there are hard men doing hard things in the background. Sigh.Nothing says exploration to me like Section 31!
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Yeah I am sure newly promoted Admirals are told when appropriate but anyone below that is need to know only, that won't stop the rumours that may swirl of course but most would be smart enough to not speak about it.If you leave aside the instances where Admiral Marcus or Luther Sloan wore their conventional Starfleet uniforms (and even those incorporated black and grey in the times we saw them), Section 31 maintains a fairly consistent color scheme of solid or accented black or dark grey outfits —though sometimes with a lighter color in the chest and midsection, like on their USS Vengeance uniforms— across three centuries. They also do a lot of trenchcoats and faux leather tunics, and even the black sleeves, chest panels, and raised collars of the Vengeance uniforms kind of give them a trenchcoat look, albeit cut off at the waist.
While not specifically a spy practice, there is some precedent for undercover and plain-clothes police officers to wear a particular "Color of the Day" in order to prevent friendly fire incidents or accidentally arresting an undercover cop during a bust if they're not prepared for that to happen. Of course, wearing similar colors for three hundred years kind of cancels out the effectiveness of such programs, but if one suspends their disbelief a bit maybe that's part of the rationale for the black/grey uniform colors and the black badges, besides looking intimidating.
Starfleet personnel of insufficient rank probably just assume the black badges are some special forces or Starfleet Intelligence unit they don't have need-to-know clearance for and thus avoid asking too many questions lest they get reprimanded.
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Classified and all that.
I doubt section 31 are going to be the good guys.
The lesson of last season was not to blow up Qo'noS. It would be a 180 to go and portray as Section 31 being necessary.
Paramount is part of Viacom. The names "Viacom" and "CBS" have been used by various companies in National Amusements orbit over the years.
@Tuskin38 @BillJ @Dijeirusan let's drop the subject of who is and isn't trolling please. Don't all need to have the last word.
I know Paramount is owned by Viacom. I was just being more specific.
I think what will happen is when CBS and Viacom merge, CBS will shut down the movies completely. CBS has already pulled the plug on IDW doing any more movie comics.
I try not to.
But the scene in question is incoherent even on that level, because Leland himself is human. (Indeed, it's his humanness that convinces MU Georgiou that he's from the Federation. Which just goes to underscore her misunderstanding of what the Federation is.)
For that matter, Starfleet admirals, a Vulcan ambassador, and reportedly the Federation Council were just recently on board with the idea of committing genocide on Qo'nos in order to win the war. Offensive and implausible as that story beat was, IMHO, if we take it as given we're left to wonder what kind of tactics remain that would mark Section 31 as even more extreme.
(P.S.: what's this about starvation by distraction with a neat shape? I feel like I'm missing a reference here...)
Yeah, and they've also said that the first season was about the Federation and Starfleet recovering their values. (Hence all the anvils dropped in the season finale.) Given all these thematic points, it really seems like a story playing up Section 31 would be at odds with taking a more exploratory, diplomatic, idealistic approach in season two. Go figure.
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We don't know how big their role will be. It might just be a few episodes.
My conspiracy theory is CBS planned ahead for the absorption of Viacom, and the idea they'll be potentially making the Star Trek movies going forward, and that's why they needed to visually reboot the Prime timeline, to make it ready for theatrical films. Like the new look Enterprise and even the redesigned crew uniforms, I expect them all to be movie ready. Anyways, that's for another thread and time.
This thread is becoming a lot like the Mirror Universe. Dark, foreboding and full of caricatures of people.
Section 31 I don't mind. Recycling them over and over again because they're now the go-to plot point for sinister and edgy I sort of do mind.
The KGB doesn't even appear this often in Bond films.
Section 31 I don't mind. Recycling them over and over again because they're now the go-to plot point for sinister and edgy I sort of do mind.
The KGB doesn't even appear this often in Bond films.
This really points to a huge problem with the writing. There's no subtlety to any of it, at all. Now, they have to up the ante with Section 31 to make them seem more extreme in comparison to the events of season one.
If the writers come up with a great story that somehow uses Section 31 for exploration and diplomacy, I will gladly give them credit. Though based on what I've seen vs. what they are proposing... I have my doubts.
