Was "Shadow Guy" ever revealed?

[ChristopherPike]

T'Pol's dead Daddy.

Yeah, I know... "the Vulcan Science Directorate have determined that time-travel is impossible". But they would say that, wouldn't they?

 

[thribs]

The plan was for "Future Guy" to be Soval, and Soval was a Romulan.

Seriously.

He’s a real piece of work if you read the novels, but I don’t see him as a temporal meddler.

 

[Tenacity]

Yeah, I know... "the Vulcan Science Directorate have determined that time-travel is impossible". But they would say that, wouldn't they?

Why do I get the feeling that at one point the the Vulcan Science Directorate determined that warp drive was "impossible."

 

[Terok Nor]

Star Trek Online gave a identity to him, but that’s not strictly canon.
Would have been cool if it was a chap from the Next Gen shows.

Who is it?

 

[thribs]

Who is it?

You know what... I’m completely wrong. The guy there is a different character altogether who just uses the same tech as him.
His name is Jamran Harnoth and his story is told in the Department of Temporal Investigations novels.

My apologies. I got them mixed up.

 

[Butters]

Obviously it was Eric Bana as Nero -- the Romulan from the future ...

I was just going to say Nero, tinkering with history while he waited for Spock.

Twenty years is a long wait, TCW is the perfect diversion to keep the mind active.

 

[Tuskin38]

You know what... I’m completely wrong. The guy there is a different character altogether who just uses the same tech as him.
His name is Jamran Harnoth and his story is told in the Department of Temporal Investigations novels.

My apologies. I got them mixed up.

STO isn't in the Novel'verse timeline, so they have their own version of shadow guy. So you're still right.

 

[Ethros]

Someone liked my post in here. "I don't remember posting anything in that thread.... oh it was from 11 years ago"

 

[thribs]

STO isn't in the Novel'verse timeline, so they have their own version of shadow guy. So you're still right.

I still think it's a different chap. The STO one wouldn't have warned Archer about the Xindi.

 

[thribs]

I was just going to say Nero, tinkering with history while he waited for Spock.

Twenty years is a long wait, TCW is the perfect diversion to keep the mind active.

He was in prison for most of that. I don't know why JJ cut that.

 

[Phoenix219]

Doesn't the TCW kind of *prove* that ENT is a new timeline from TOS? Or does it just "prove" that we've NEVER seen the original timeline?

 

[Tim Thomason]

Star Trek Online gave a identity to him, but that’s not strictly canon.
Would have been cool if it was a chap from the Next Gen shows.

Cut them some slack. These members in 2007 have no idea what Star Trek Online is.

 

[Wowbagger]

Between the launch of this thread and today, Brannon Braga has stated that Future Guy was intended to be a future version of Jonathan Archer.

It's not canon (nothing's canon), but I'll take it... and, while I like the general rules of time travel set out in the DTI books, I don't much care for Jamron Harnoth, a random dude from a faction we've never heard of turning out to be responsible for everything. It's realistic, but just doesn't resonate for me.

 

[thribs]

I always thought if they made a Enterprise J series, they would reveal the person who was Daniels boss to be a older Archer who was time displaced and served there for a few years before he was sent back to his time. The shadow guy’s, and the other leaders of the factions would be told there.

 

[STEPhon IT]

Between the launch of this thread and today, Brannon Braga has stated that Future Guy was intended to be a future version of Jonathan Archer.

Are you kidding me??? That reveal should've been involved in a real series finale of ENT. Something as thought provoking as the BBC's The Prisoner.

 

[F. King Daniel]

Doesn't the TCW kind of *prove* that ENT is a new timeline from TOS? Or does it just "prove" that we've NEVER seen the original timeline?

Officially, it proves we've never seen the original timeline. The tie-ins to "Tholian Web" and "The Pegasus" make their intentions (at least by season 4) clear.

But nowadays I like to think Discovery might be the mangled TOS era in a timeline affected by the Temporal War. It still doesn't explain the Klingons, though.

 

[thribs]

It could simply be pre-destined. That the Temporal Cold War was going to happen regardless.
Maybe if it didn’t, First Contact wouldn’t have happened.

 

[F. King Daniel]

This fan film gives another version of Future Guy (and the first USS Discovery!):

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Spoiler: Horizon's Future Guy

A Romulan trying to prevent the destruction of his homeworld

 

[thribs]

I remember that. The lead looked so uninterested in every scene.

 

[thribs]

Are you kidding me??? That reveal should've been involved in a real series finale of ENT. Something as thought provoking as the BBC's The Prisoner.

The Prisoner was ATV (now known as ITV), not BBC. The UK does have more than the BBC you know.