Jessica Jones Season 2

[Reverend]

Trish's line about Jessica not wanting a partner but needing one makes me wonder if the Hellcat cometh.

Between her getting herself trained as a martial artist, her enthusiasm at trying to make Jess a costume, her wanting to make her radio show less commercial and more socially conscious, and of course her reaction at seeing Daredevil in person certainly leaves one with the impression that this is where they're headed with that character.

 

[Captain Craig]

Trish's line about Jessica not wanting a partner but needing one makes me wonder if the Hellcat cometh.

It seems all but certain that this is where they are going. Maybe see a prototype Hellcat outfit, ala DD Season 1, then get a proper Hellcat crime fighting costume in a Jessica Jones S3(wherever that may air).

 

[The Nth Doctor]

Another trailer:

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A couple of glimpses of David Tennant, although those were from the first season, but I'm pretty certain both of those shots of Luke Cage are new. Good to know he'll play some role in the season and hopefully address how they left things in season 1 because I wasn't entirely satisfied with how The Defenders handled it.

 

[JD]

I was a bit surprised to see Luke there, I didn't remember hearing about him being back.
Definitely looks like this season should be interesting, I look forward to the exploration of Jessica's past.

 

[Turtletrekker]

Both of Luke's shots were from season one. Hell, most of the trailer was season one.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

Ah, I stand corrected. The first shot I figured was from the first season, but I didn't recognize the second one at all.

 

[tomalak301]

I'm finally watching season 1 again and I have two thoughts going in. This show is handling half the defenders coming together better than The Defenders did, and are they in Hell's Kitchen? Isn't this taking place a little after Daredevil season 1. How does Luke and Jessica now know about him.

 

[Christopher]

Isn't this taking place a little after Daredevil season 1. How does Luke and Jessica now know about him.

Because of all the newspaper coverage of "the Devil of Hell's Kitchen" in DD season 1. It was a Bulletin headline in the season 1 finale that named him Daredevil.

 

[Turtletrekker]

Spoiler-free advance review of the first five episodes.

Excerpt...

While season 1 focused on Jessica’s recovery from her trauma, season 2 sees her struggling to reconcile with her past. Jessica is thrown deep into the mystery of her family’s death, the shady IGH, and the origin of her powers. On top of this, she must deal with the pressure that comes from being a high profile powered individual who also runs a private investigation agency. Jessica has a lot on her plate and deals with it the only way she knows how: with a whole lot of booze and punching.

While season 1 of Jessica Jones was praised for its style, season 2 doubles down on the noir feeling. Jessica is faced with more cases, including her own and goes about looking for clues in true detective fashion. Sean Callery’s score adds another layer in creating the show’s creepy atmospheric tone. Jessica Jones season 2 feels more like The Punisher than any of the previous Netflix Marvel shows. Both are about big conspiracies and cover ups. Both are stories of very damaged individuals trying to overcome the trauma in their past. And both are about coming to realize that no matter the consequences, sometimes the only way out is through.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

You forgot to include a link in your hypertext.

Sounds pretty promising based on the excerpt.

I read Alias for the first time but I have to say I wasn't entirely impressed. Part of that is probably bias based on how much I loved the show and the show set-up certain expectations for me. The show was more focused Jessica's trauma and how she cooped with it as well the deeper nature of Kilgrave, whereas Alias was more broad and seemed more interested in what would happen if a female superhero decided to quit being a superhero and start a private investigation with lots of cursing and boozing. Hell, the show explored the nature of Kilgrave more than Alias, which only really featured him as a previously known villain that just happened to cause trouble for Jessica in her past. I also didn't like how Jessica seemingly outed a closet mutant to a hateful minister who had ear of that mutant's tiny, rural town (mind you, it turned out she wasn't a mutant, but Jessica didn't know that at the time).

I'm also reading The Pulse (the immediate follow-up to Alias) and I'm liking it more. It's certainly more focused and coherent than Alias.

 

[Turtletrekker]

You forgot to include a link in your hypertext.

Fixed. Thanks.

As for the Alias comic, yeah, it was always meant to be exactly what you described. I always warn friends who pick it up that the Killgrave story isn't the focus of the book the way it is in the show. I went into the comic blind after discovering Jessica in the pages on New Avengers. She only had a very small supporting role in those early days, but still found her intriguing enough to seek out her stories. And she is what led me to the Young Avengers.

Interestingly enough, Bendis originally wanted to write the adventures of Jessica Drew, but Marvel didn't want to put that much damage on an existing character.

 

[Alidar Jarok]

Alias shouldn't be read as a Jessica vs. Killgrave story. It's much broader and basically touches the dark corners of the Marvel Universe that don't see any light. That's sort of its goal (that and attempting realistic, non-idealized relationships). I'm glad there are those stories because, if the show wants to draw from the comics, it has other stuff besides Killgrave to look towards.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

Alias shouldn't be read as a Jessica vs. Killgrave story. It's much broader and basically touches the dark corners of the Marvel Universe that don't see any light. That's sort of its goal (that and attempting realistic, non-idealized relationships). I'm glad there are those stories because, if the show wants to draw from the comics, it has other stuff besides Killgrave to look towards.

Yeah, I see that now. I just wish I had known that going in.

Still, on its own, I had some issues with the writing. I can't quite put my finger on it but it seemed to lack focus and was rather...incoherent for a lack of a better word.

 

[Christopher]

Still, on its own, I had some issues with the writing. I can't quite put my finger on it but it seemed to lack focus was rather...incoherent for a lack of a better word.

It's pretty common for the original comic-book source material to be more unfocused and episodic than the movies and shows based on it. After all, the movies and shows are picking out the best bits from years and years' worth of comics (which were often made up month by month without a particularly clear advance plan) and distilling them down into more focused narratives. So if you start with the adaptation and then go back to the original, it's usually going to be a lot less tight.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

It's pretty common for the original comic-book source material to be more unfocused and episodic than the movies and shows based on it. After all, the movies and shows are picking out the best bits from years and years' worth of comics (which were often made up month by month without a particularly clear advance plan) and distilling them down into more focused narratives. So if you start with the adaptation and then go back to the original, it's usually going to be a lot less tight.

Perhaps so, although I think my particular problem stems largely from being spoiled by Neil Gaiman. After giving up on Spider-Man during the Clone Saga and the return of Norman Osborn (all of the absurdities with all of that), I pretty much stopped reading comics for years other than older Spider-Man comics (although I did read Rising Stars when they came out in trade paperbacks) until I finally read Sandman and many of Gaiman's other comics works. As a result, I've become unfairly critical of what I've read since.

 

[Turtletrekker]

The MCU Exchange has rounded up some of the online reviews of the first 5 episodes. Generally positive, but several of them bring up what is truly the bane of the Marvel Netflix series, the pacing issues continue.

https://mcuexchange.com/jessica-jones-season-2-critic-reviews/

 

[Alidar Jarok]

Yeah, I see that now. I just wish I had known that going in.

Still, on its own, I had some issues with the writing. I can't quite put my finger on it but it seemed to lack focus and was rather...incoherent for a lack of a better word.

I was surprised at how late the Purple Man is actually revealed as what caused her problems. It's clear from the beginning that it's something.

This was among Brian Michael Bendis's first work for Marvel so I could see it not being quite polished.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

The MCU Exchange has rounded up some of the online reviews of the first 5 episodes. Generally positive, but several of them bring up what is truly the bane of the Marvel Netflix series, the pacing issues continue.

https://mcuexchange.com/jessica-jones-season-2-critic-reviews/

Honestly, I've rarely had any issues with any of the pacing of the shows aside from parts of Daredevil season two and the second half of Luke Cage, and only to a small degree on both counts. I've seen a lot of people complain in particularly regarding Jessica Jones season one but I've had no problem with it.

I was surprised at how late the Purple Man is actually revealed as what caused her problems. It's clear from the beginning that it's something.

So was I, but even before I reached that point, I chalked it up to my expectations from the show.

This was among Brian Michael Bendis's first work for Marvel so I could see it not being quite polished.

Ah, that makes sense then. Thanks for the historic context.

 

[Christopher]

This was among Brian Michael Bendis's first work for Marvel so I could see it not being quite polished.

Like I said, it isn't necessarily a matter of polish, just that you're reading something in collected form that was originally written to be experienced a month at a time. So naturally the pacing is going to be different, and focused more on the individual cases than the big-picture character arc.

 

[tomalak301]

I was surprised at how late the Purple Man is actually revealed as what caused her problems. It's clear from the beginning that it's something.

This was among Brian Michael Bendis's first work for Marvel so I could see it not being quite polished.

I just watched Episode 6 again, and I can understand the pacing thing. This episode felt like a side step to Luke's backstory (And maybe to set up Luke Cage) and I'm not sure it needed to be 54 minutes long. It's interesting. There are some episodes of Discovery that I felt were too short. There might be some episodes of Jessica Jones which might be too long. Still, I'm really enjoying this second watch, and I still think Ritter is a great Jessica Jones.