Neither of these questions are related to each other, but sometimes when watching an episode you need to know the answer. First, in "Mirror, Mirror," they seem to refer to both Starfleet Command and The Empire as the overseeing body in the Mirror Universe. Are they interchangeable or is it one or the other? Seems like a script continuity thing. The other question revolves around Sulu and Chekov and may have been answered before. How many episodes did Chekov and Sulu actually share the helm together? I wonder if Mr. Blackburn had seen more screen time?
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I see no inconsistency vis a vis "Starfleet " vs "The Empire", just as I don't see one between "Starfleet" and "The Federation". They are two different things in both universes.
Don't have the stats to answer your second Q, but then with use of "stock shots", sometimes in the same ep. you may be looking at Chekov and sometimes the other guy from behind?
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Don't have the stats to answer your second Q, but then with use of "stock shots", sometimes in the same ep. you may be looking at Chekov and sometimes the other guy from behind?
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Sulu & Chekov are together shockingly few times. In S2, I think it's just Catspaw, Who Mourns, Mirror Mirror, Friday's Child, Amok Time, Deadly Years and Ultimate Computer. Oh, and maybe Assignment: Earth. In S3, I can think of Spock's Brain, Turnabout, Way to Eden, Let That Be, Paradise Syndrome, ATCSL, Day of the Dove, Tholian Web, Elaan, LOZ, Savage Curtain, Mark of Gideon, For the World Is Hollow, Paradise Syndrome and Enterprise Incident. I may have missed a couple, but that's only 23 times. And in some of those (like Catspaw) they had no scenes together.
As professional actors (reading professionally written scripts), they were able to fake camaraderie, which creates the illusion that they were together much more than they were. Shatner and Doohan were masterful at it, especially in the movies, by which time there was real antipathy between them.
In ST:Generations there is a brief scene on the bridge where Shatner and Doohan display their mutual disgust for each other. I was surprised that it wasn't edited out of the script and movie.
You're reading into it something that isn't there due to your knowledge of Doohan's feelings in real life. That is just two characters taking jabs at each other. And besides, as far as I know it wasn't mutual disgust. Doohan certainly hated Shatner by that point, but Shatner didn't care about Doohan enough to worry one way or the other.
You sure about that....?
The Shatner-Doohan feud makes me sad.
Great piece of acting in the transporter room in Mirror, Mirror when Scotty calls Kirk "Jim" for the only depicted time.
Great piece of acting in the transporter room in Mirror, Mirror when Scotty calls Kirk "Jim" for the only depicted time.
He also calls him Jim in TNG. But not to his face.
Oh, that's right, in Relics? That was a fun ep.He also calls him Jim in TNG. But not to his face.
I call bullshit. Takei is notoriously unreliable. And:
https://www.trekbbs.com/threads/did...ver-patch-things-up.36158/page-2#post-1004923
"Oh, myyyyyyyy"
What about the scene from one of the early episodes where Shatner forgets his lines and Doohan turns up and reminds him? They both seem to laugh at each other, well Jimmy laughs and Shatner grimaces! That's close enough!
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I think the story about Shatner declining to go back onstage with the supporting actors is probably true, but certainly not monstrous. At a certain point, a big star will get fed up with having to perform like a dancing bear in the circus, and just say "No more, I don't need this."
Also, it's possible we're not being told what Jimmy's Alzheimer's led him to say to Bill at one time or another, and thus what Bill was "putting up with." Maybe I would have refused to pay tribute to Jimmy if he'd been out of his gourd and treating me like crap. And I'm not even a star.
Also, it's possible we're not being told what Jimmy's Alzheimer's led him to say to Bill at one time or another, and thus what Bill was "putting up with." Maybe I would have refused to pay tribute to Jimmy if he'd been out of his gourd and treating me like crap. And I'm not even a star.
Have you read Doohan's book?
I know its just Doohan's side of the story but I can't see him lying. IMO I remember Doohan saying he rang up Shatner to find something about GEN and Shatner hanging up on him saying how did you get my number? Now I understand that Shatner is a bigger star than Doohan but it wasn't like Doohan was some extra on Catspaw that wanted to chat with him.
Shatner not showing up to Nimoy's funeral sums it up for me.
As fans, we see our beloved characters loving and supporting each other no matter what, but for the actors that play them it is just another job. I've been in the workforce for 35 years now, and have worked with hundreds of different people, but there are only a handful that I ever considered to be my friends, and truthfully most of the rest I couldn't care less about.
"How did you get my number?" That's hilarious!
It seems doubtful that William Shatner himself would be the only person who could answer Jimmy's question. Doohan could call his own agent, or even Bill's representation, and say "Can you find out X and get back to me?" Or he could call Walter Koenig, or the studio offices. You have to be a close personal friend to phone a big star directly; too many people want to talk to them.
Regarding Nimoy's funeral, what I heard is this. It was announced for a certain day, and then the family moved it up a day without notice in the hopes of ditching the hordes of Trekkies who were sure to come and breathe down the family's necks. Shatner was in Florida for a charitable event and he made the judgement call to honor his promises there. Had the funeral been held when it was supposed to be, he would have gone.
I'm going out on a limb here and voicing something that's been playing around in my head a while. Just my opinion, mind you. I think that Shatner and Nimoy didn't really like each other. Whenever they mention the other in an interview, there's usually a little snide, nasty remark, which strikes a chord in me. Then they smooth it over. But it's as if what was lying beneath the surface came to the top, just for a second. I think that the final breach happened because Nimoy knew he was dying and didn't want to be a hypocrite anymore. It's just a feeling I have after watching some interviews. Nothing solid to base it on. (ducking the flames)
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