1 hour (2 @ 30min episodes) according to my cable provider. That's been know to be wrong before, so take it with a grain of salt at the moment...
Star Wars Rebels Season Four (spoilers)
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Just saw it will be 3 episodes so 1.5 hours........we will see.
Just did a little Google-fu and it appears you are correct. I'll make sure my DVR is set accordingly, just to be safe.
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My understanding is that time elapsed for her on Malachor as she experienced the moments with Ezra in the arcane Force realm and then she returned to go into the doorway as we originally saw at the very end of Twilight of the Apprentice.
This means Vader probably thinks she's dead, unless he was able to see Ezra grab her and pull her away. He wouldn't have sensed her immediately after the Sith temple/weapon collapsed.
Ahsoka also tells Ezra she "can't" return with him to his time. I think this is because she realizes that they both must return to their respective portals.
Another interesting note: Ahsoka clearly exposed the identity of her former master, Anakin, to Ezra. On the rewatch I caught that - she also said that he was unable to save Kanan as she was now unable to save her master. Ezra should be able to piece that one together.
This means Vader probably thinks she's dead, unless he was able to see Ezra grab her and pull her away. He wouldn't have sensed her immediately after the Sith temple/weapon collapsed.
Ahsoka also tells Ezra she "can't" return with him to his time. I think this is because she realizes that they both must return to their respective portals.
Another interesting note: Ahsoka clearly exposed the identity of her former master, Anakin, to Ezra. On the rewatch I caught that - she also said that he was unable to save Kanan as she was now unable to save her master. Ezra should be able to piece that one together.
Rewatched both today. Solid episodes. I am struggling to recall anything from the first half of this season - the memory of Sabine's Mandalore story and the failed attack on the Imperial factory on Lothal just weren't very memorable to me somehow.
But I woke up today thinking about Wolves & Worlds.
Oh, here's a great observation someone had about the very end of Worlds:
The portal in which the Emperor appears to spew blue smoke at them is the same portal that directed to Kanan's death. The circular marking at the top of that round portal is a Sith insignia. Was that portal a trap set by the Emperor? He has a well established affinity for traps!!
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Great question...
Presumably she returned to the same time she left (+/- the the minutes/hours she was with Ezra). That seems to be the case with Ezra. He exited the portal and was returned to the same time (+/- the time he was inside).
Then again if she returned to the past, why didn't she leave Malachor in the year or so that's passed since the S2 finale. Maybe she actually did return to Malachor at present time and that explains her absence for that year or so.
Then again if she returned to the past, why didn't she leave Malachor in the year or so that's passed since the S2 finale. Maybe she actually did return to Malachor at present time and that explains her absence for that year or so.
For the same reason that...
...she convinced Ezra not to change Kanan's fate: Because it could alter the events that led to the rest of the Ghost crew being saved, and that led Ezra to where he is now that enabled him to save Ahsoka. She wants destiny to play out the way it's supposed to, and if Ezra tells her that Ahsoka has been missing and presumed dead for the intervening two years, then she's not going to want to change that.
Or, it could be that history can't be changed, and her life path just took a different direction from Malachor, which we might find out about in an upcoming novel or comic.
Or, it could be that history can't be changed, and her life path just took a different direction from Malachor, which we might find out about in an upcoming novel or comic.
Ezra has altered destiny though, by telling her to come find them. Had that not have happened, perhaps she wouldn't have.
The whole meaning of "destiny" is that it had to happen, that it was always dictated that it would happen when the time came. And in a fixed-timeline model, every event only happens once, even if it overlaps events in its own past or future, so the way it happens is simply the way it happens, with no do-overs. Fixed timelines and destiny look a lot alike, but the latter is a more mystical concept that presumes events were "meant" to happen in a certain way through the will of the universe, regardless of what anyone expects or wants to happen.
In this case, there's no evidence yet that the timeline isn't fixed, because nobody's changed anything that we know of. We didn't see Ahsoka killed by Vader; we just assumed it happened after we and Ezra lost sight of her. Ezra's rescue of her comes immediately after that, so it could've happened that way all along. That was probably Filoni's intent from the beginning. And given that the Star Wars franchise has featured exactly zero time travel or timeline alteration up to now (except for a few EU/Legends tales), it stands to reason that the World Between Worlds does not have the ability to alter the timeline easily or casually, if at all. So I'm not going to assume the timeline is alterable without any evidence of alteration.
In any case, whether time is alterable or not, it seems clear enough that Ahsoka has no desire to try to alter it, because she believes in destiny and the will of the Force. She was saved from dying at Vader's hands because that was her destiny, and Ezra telling her to come find them was part of that predestined event. She wouldn't see it as a change. And there's no reason to think it was.
In this case, there's no evidence yet that the timeline isn't fixed, because nobody's changed anything that we know of. We didn't see Ahsoka killed by Vader; we just assumed it happened after we and Ezra lost sight of her. Ezra's rescue of her comes immediately after that, so it could've happened that way all along. That was probably Filoni's intent from the beginning. And given that the Star Wars franchise has featured exactly zero time travel or timeline alteration up to now (except for a few EU/Legends tales), it stands to reason that the World Between Worlds does not have the ability to alter the timeline easily or casually, if at all. So I'm not going to assume the timeline is alterable without any evidence of alteration.
In any case, whether time is alterable or not, it seems clear enough that Ahsoka has no desire to try to alter it, because she believes in destiny and the will of the Force. She was saved from dying at Vader's hands because that was her destiny, and Ezra telling her to come find them was part of that predestined event. She wouldn't see it as a change. And there's no reason to think it was.
However,
We saw
We saw
battle between Asoka and Vader seasons ago so we know it went differently; Asoka didn't disappear and Vader didn't fall through a hole in the ground. Asoka did, however, walk limping into the temple in that episode, so that was the same here. For me this means it's not that fixed. The timeline has been altered. Now, if one wants to argue it's now affixed differently, I'll go for that.
I guess either way works...
- Ashoka was returned to Malachor in the past with knowledge of her absence and simply fulfilled that temporal requirement, for lack of a better term.
- Ashoka was returned to Malachor in the present and simply skipped the last couple years due to force based time travel.
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No, I think that secret is still safe, since only we the audience appreciate the context of that statement. From Ezra's POV it would seem like she just means that Anakin is dead to, which is not new information for him. Plus of course he had a number of other things on his mind in that moment.
What I did find interesting is that nobody seemed surprised that Palpatine is a Sith. Granted Ahsoka already knew, as does Bail so it's possible it's known by most senior Alliance officers, it's just that we've never seen it directly addressed.
What I did find interesting is that nobody seemed surprised that Palpatine is a Sith. Granted Ahsoka already knew, as does Bail so it's possible it's known by most senior Alliance officers, it's just that we've never seen it directly addressed.
So, what does it mean for the guy falling down into the hole? Clearly we were meant to see it as the scene not only cut to that, but felt the need to let us know what happened to him.
There's nothing in the new ep that contradicts the previous one.
The last time we saw Vader and Ahsoka, the temple closed and cut off our view of them. We don't see them again until split up, so the fight as presented here could easily be "how it always happened".
I had to double check it, but looks like you're right. That could account for you-know-who's limping walk.
And according to the Rebels Recon posted above, it's believed that this was always the plan.
Unrelated,
I love the look of the Emperor's power reaching out for Ezra and Ahsoka. Looks exactly like the power that bursts out of him when he dies. Nice touch.
Well, Ezra did not return to the exact same moment he left. He returned minutes or hours later. Time continued to flow for him. It stands to reason time continued to flow for Asoka the same. As for why she never left Malachor... It might be as simple as she has no ship to do so. She is stranded until rescue.
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