Poll Do you consider Discovery to truly be in the Prime Timeline at this point?

[Jeyl]

Ya. Screw Trials and Tribble-ations and their attempt at making a clever homage to the original series. Should have kept everything modern like the show runners of Discovery are doing.

They should have someone at the Air and Space museum stand by the actual Enterprise filming model and just tell everyone that this model is highly inaccurate and does not reflect what the Enterprise actually looked like. That is what Discovery is doing, right? I mean, why would TNG, DS9 and ENT go out of their way to replicate the 60s designs if none of that matters?

 

[Mirror Mirror]

Ya. Screw Trials and Tribble-ations and their attempt at making a clever homage to the original series. Should have kept everything modern like the show runners of Discovery are doing.

They should have someone at the Air and Space museum stand by the actual Enterprise filming model and just tell everyone that this model is highly inaccurate and does not reflect what the Enterprise actually looked like. That is what Discovery is doing, right? I mean, why would TNG, DS9 and ENT go out of their way to replicate the 60s designs if none of that matters?

It was a homage and a Joke, trek fans could not even take. It was not a weekly show, it was not showing that time, week after week, looking dated and cheap. It was a simple homage that only some folks even liked.

 

[CaptainMurdock]

Trials and Tribble-ations wasn't a joke. It was a celebration of 30 years of Star Trek.

 

[fireproof78]

Ya. Screw Trials and Tribble-ations and their attempt at making a clever homage to the original series. Should have kept everything modern like the show runners of Discovery are doing.

They should have someone at the Air and Space museum stand by the actual Enterprise filming model and just tell everyone that this model is highly inaccurate and does not reflect what the Enterprise actually looked like. That is what Discovery is doing, right? I mean, why would TNG, DS9 and ENT go out of their way to replicate the 60s designs if none of that matters?

Because Star Trek is a slave to its past.

 

[Mirror Mirror]

Trials and Tribble-ations wasn't a joke. It was a celebration of 30 years of Star Trek.

No, it had a joke in it "We do not talk about" was a joke, a funny "Ha, ha look how cheap we used to do klingons, 60's brown face, ha, ha" but no, fans could not laugh at trek.

 

[Mirror Mirror]

Because Star Trek is a slave to its past.

People seem to think making it look old and cheap would actually be a hit. I mean, it works fine for fan films, but that is never gonna fly with a studio product that hopes to grow the fan base.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Trials and Tribble-ations wasn't a joke. It was a celebration of 30 years of Star Trek.

The line "We do not discuss it with outsiders" was a joke.

 

[fireproof78]

People seem to think making it look old and cheap would actually be a hit. I mean, it works fine for fan films, but that is never gonna fly with a studio product that hopes to grow the fan base.

I genuinely think that there would be more satisfaction in the niche audience if CBS had just handed Vic and James and let them go wild.

 

[Mirror Mirror]

I genuinely think that there would be more satisfaction in the niche audience if CBS had just handed Vic and James and let them go wild.

And it would have bombed so very very bad.

 

[cooleddie74]

It was a homage and a Joke, trek fans could not even take. It was not a weekly show, it was not showing that time, week after week, looking dated and cheap. It was a simple homage that only some folks even liked.

That episode was not a joke. Though I wish the snobbery about how the Enterprise and her sister ship looked even in the 21st century were.

 

[Mirror Mirror]

That episode was not a joke. Though I wish the snobbery about how the Enterprise and her sister ship looked even in the 21st century were.

No, it held the joke though. There was the whole Klingon line, which was a joke, poking fun at the primitive and frankly racist 60's make up. That was all it was, just a funny joke. Fans however, could not accept a joke, oh noes, it had to now be explained.

 

[cooleddie74]

Racist?

 

[Mirror Mirror]

Racist?

The painted a white actor brown with a color called "Mexican brown".

 

[fireproof78]

And it would have bombed so very very bad.

Doesn't matter.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Oddly enough, Tribbles features the palest Klingons. White guys with goatees and black turtlenecks. A planet of beatniks.

 

[fireproof78]

Oddly enough, Tribbles features the palest Klingons. White guys with goatees and black turtlenecks. A planet of beatniks.

Beatnik planet. There's one that is never made it to screen.

 

[Lord Garth]

Hipster Klingons?

 

[CaptainMurdock]

Blingons?

 

[cooleddie74]

The painted a white actor brown with a color called "Mexican brown".

Alright, I'll give you that, but the look itself wasn't necessarily "racist." Just what the budgets of the time could achieve. Frankly, by Season 3 the TOS Klingons looked a lot more exotic and menacing even if they never had ridges. We can argue about whether or not all that swarthy greasepaint was "racist" but the results were pretty damn good for 1968. Considering that other sci-fi series of the time had actors in carrot costumes and dressed as goofy bug people and robots I'd say some dark-complected Klingons with goatees was pretty progressive and aimed at grownups.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Beatnik planet. There's one that is never made it to screen.