It's really easy: I just take into account that TOS was a TV show from the 60s.
Poll Do you consider Discovery to truly be in the Prime Timeline at this point?
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No, its the actual reason. All the in-universe stuff are the handwaves taken to a ridiculous extreme.
Exactly
So, what's wrong with DISCO Klingons by that argument?
No, its the actual reason. All the in-universe stuff are the handwaves taken to a ridiculous extreme.
Exactly
Wrath of Khan, Search for Spock, Final Frontier, Undiscovered Country, Generations, Insurrection, Nemesis...
Hell, they totally butchered the entire premise of the Borg just so they could have Picard and Data opposite a traditional zombie-thot villain character.
In the TV series, we have:
Q (like 8 times), Armus, Damon Bok (twice), Sela (also twice), Duras (twice), Duras' sisters (twice), Lore (3 times), Kivas Fajo, Ardra, Ben Maxwell, Gul Macet, Gul Dukat (a dozen times), Gowron (briefly), Various versions of Weyoun, Kai Wyn, the Female Changeling, Seska, Maj Culluh, The Borg Queen on Voyager (cringe), the Vidiians, the Malons, Futureguy/Silik, Degara and the Xindi Reptillians, The Space Nazis from Outer Space, Arik Soong, Arik Soong's augments, Duras('s great grandfather or something), the guys from Chosen Realm, Robocop, Shran (occasionally), V'Las and his Vulcan dictatorship, the Romulans and their droneship, literally everyone in the Mirror Universe...
I mean, yes, it's a show about exploration and scientific intrigue, negative space wedgies, Eldritch Abominations from the Twilight Zone, and the occasional romantic comedy. But you aren't seriously trying to claim that Mustache Twirling Villains haven't been a staple in Star Trek pretty much FOREVER?
Remember "The Drumhead?" Picard tells Worf "Villains who twirl their mustaches are easy to spot. The ones that cloak themselves in good intentions are well hidden." So consider the above list to be just the OBVIOUS villains; don't even get me started on Alyana "I'm going to send your old ass on a covert mission you are in no way trained for and probably won't survive because you really pissed me off last year over the whole Borg thing" Nechayev.
No, its the actual reason. All the in-universe stuff are the handwaves taken to a ridiculous extreme.
Exactly
Oh, God -- or should I say "Oh, Kahless"? -- I like them better as TOS Klingons.
You're making the me from over ten years ago cry.
I think it's the short hair. They look like corporate, conservative Klingon bankers.
I did play with the longer hair but never found a version I liked. Or the skill to pull it off. One of those.
We did get that with Worf, who started off with short hair (and the TOS baldric) and as the series progressed his hair grew longer.
I think longer hair definitely looks better on ridged Klingons.
On another note, related to this: My apologies to Nerys Myk. I have a bad habit of accidentally putting my foot in my mouth sometimes.
On another note, related to this: My apologies to Nerys Myk. I have a bad habit of accidentally putting my foot in my mouth sometimes.
No worries.
That's true. The K't'inga-class was just an uprated D7 with more surface detailing to accommodate filming for the big screen and was later retconned to be a separate class of battle cruiser. I love both.
There's been so much variation in Klingons over the last 30+ year I don't think "iconic" applies. And when it comes right down to it the DISCO version is just another take on what was introduced ion 1979.
Don't you mean "Khaay lesshh"
Say it with the accent, you son of none!
Kras from "Friday's Child(TOS)" actually looks kinda cool with ridges. Tige Andrews had the attitude but he just didn't have the look or the makeup. Bob the Discount Klingon deserved better.
Spoken to a few people, I actually think it should officially be called the Co-Prime timeline. It explains it pretty well and shuts up some of the "haterz".
There is literally NO way to shut up "haters". Any attempt to do so represents a severe misunderstanding of the nature of haters in the first place. To wit:
Have you met the Internet?
I think Kor and Mara also look good with the ridges. Though, Kor had that very business-looking face. Still looks good.Kras from "Friday's Child(TOS)" actually looks kinda cool with ridges. Tige Andrews had the attitude but he just didn't have the look or the makeup. Bob the Discount Klingon deserved better.
Have you met the Internet?
I think Kor and Mara also look good with the ridges. Though, Kor had that very business-looking face. Still looks good.
Mara would still look good with an old army boot duct taped to her head.
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