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Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 1x12 - "Vaulting Ambition"

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And speaking of a lack of confidence, they kill Culber (yet ANOTHER act done for shock value), but do they do it with confidence? Nope. They immediately walk it back twenty minutes after the episode airs, saying "don't worry, he's not really dead". WTF??
 
A word that's never been used in Star Trek before in 50 years, 13 films and five series. But hey it got a ton of social media chat, job done.



*rolls eyes*. "Use it" as in use it frequently, with confidence, more than once. As in not just a token one-off done to be a talking point on Twitter.
Get those darned kids off my space lawn with their hoverboards and what not.
Find me a navy that doesn't use that kind of language. Or a school. Or anywhere. Tilly was showing her excitement by breaking protocol and saying it in front of her superior officer (she can say "Fuck" in front of rank-less Burnham all day). But Stamets shares the enthusiasm for the finding rather than make a point about it. Why is that so hard to comprehend?
 
What point?
Pragmatism. Killing people who've obtained classified information - willingly or otherwise - is actually a thing.

Emphasis?? That's all you've got? Lol.
It's all I need. Swearing excessively just because one can is gaudy and cheap. And really kind of juvenile.

And I say that as one who litters his posts with fuckbombs.

You think Burnham has a personality? I like her character but she's a robot. One who speaks in carefully-worded statements.
In other words, her personality is to be cautiously meticulous and deliberate. Gotcha.

Common sense.
I'm still waiting to see some.
 
Get those darned kids off my space lawn with their hoverboards and what not.
Find me a navy that doesn't use that kind of language. Or a school. Or anywhere. Tilly was showing her excitement by breaking protocol and saying it in front of her superior officer (she can say "Fuck" in front of rank-less Burnham all day). But Stamets shares the enthusiasm for the finding rather than make a point about it. Why is that so hard to comprehend?

It's you who isn't comprehending my point. Of course characters on a starship are entitled to say the F word but the fact that it was used once, the first time in 50 years and hundreds of episodes, followed by a dramatic silence... means it was only done for one purpose.

Look I don't care that much. The series has far, far bigger problems than that. I only used it as an example to illustrate how the writers are incapable of writing anything other than plot twists and things done for shock value adding nothing to the story.
 
Besides the visual was implicit and succinct.

Some other techno-gizmo would require unnecessary expo.

The series is outstanding at lacing the script with exposition. eg: Lorca's "the files will be in the Imperial palace, which just so happens to be where we've been summoned".

Half of Burnham's words this series are filled with exposition. It's just poor.
 
They could have dealt with that other ways. Like having her push a button and activate an implant all of her aides have to have which causes them to instantly die. The gore was a stylistic choice.
I will disagree with that, and I don't like gore and extreme violence on the screen, generally. But it served a purpose with Georgiou just because we havent seen "her" since the second episode where she is still the nearly flawless heroic typical captain standing for Starfleet ideals. This version is the opposite in every way, and the murders and the dinner get that point across well.
 
Except that the folks involved with the show made a point on social media, After Trek, etc. to highlight their "historic" moment. It was like seeing little kids excitedly telling each other that they had said something naughty. It was juvenile.

Oh dear, I hadn't seen that. Cringe.
 
It was done for shock value.
It was done for laughs. It's been a LONG time since I was shocked by someone saying "fuck" on television, but that's mainly because I'm not a twelve year old...

Related question: why the fuck are you still watching this show if you hate it so much?

They could have dealt with that other ways. Like having her push a button and activate an implant all of her aides have to have which causes them to instantly die. The gore was a stylistic choice.
Yeah, and it was fucking cool!
 
I will disagree with that, and I don't like gore and extreme violence on the screen, generally. But it served a purpose with Georgiou just because we havent seen "her" since the second episode where she is still the nearly flawless heroic typical captain standing for Starfleet ideals. This version is the opposite in every way, and the murders and the dinner get that point across well.

We get it though, everyone in the mirror universe is EVIL, with zero complexity. It would have taken far more guts and writing talent to have Georgiou as something other than pure evil.
 
It was done for laughs. It's been a LONG time since I was shocked by someone saying "fuck" on television, but that's mainly because I'm not a twelve year old...

Related question: why the fuck are you still watching this show if you hate it so much?

Why am I not surprised that someone who has "Your mom" as their location is loving Discovery's juvenile writing?

Why the fuck am I still watching this show if I hate it so much? Because I really, really enjoyed the first ten episodes. Then, they went into the mirror universe and idiotically killed Culber, idiotically made Tyler Voq, idiotically had Lorca come from that universe all along. I'm hoping they get back to their reality asap and we can get the series back to a Star Trek show. Something it resembled quite a bit before jumping the shark.
 
We get it though, everyone in the mirror universe is EVIL, with zero complexity. It would have taken far more guts and writing talent to have Georgiou as something other than pure evil.
Sympathy for the devil is a good album but an overrated concept. In any case, I think they have been doing that with Lorca
 
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