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Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 1x12 - "Vaulting Ambition"

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I took it as part of his escape plan. He wanted the guy to turn up the juice so he could fake the heart attack and get out. He could handle the increase due to the painkiller Burnham gave him.

Oh yeah lets add Pharmaceutical Scientist to Michael C.V :rolleyes:.
 
Nice twist. Makes up for the clunky dialogue, the odd manner by which Stamets recovers, and the usual plot holes, etc.
 
Lorca was eating Kelpian in a previous episode, back when they were still in the PU.
Lorca was eating Kelpian before it was cool.
That Tribble is dead
Lorca ate it. Why do you think it was on the desk next to the fortune cookies?

It's a Mirror Universe thing. "To explore new worlds... to seek out delicious new life forms and new civilizations... to boldly eat what no man has eaten before..."
 
He wasn't, I was wrong.
Don't ruin my headcanon! That would have been an awesome plot twist! Especially if Burnham was eating the same thing on Shenzhou -- served by Saru of all people.

Of course, I'm probably one of the only people who thought the "rat burger" scene in Demolition Man was one of the best parts of that movie.
 
Add to that list Lorca's weird “menagerie” where he dissected all sorts of lifeforms in order to weaponize what he finds for a war he really doesn't have a part in. A lot of aspects of the show really only seems to have been incorporated for shock value or to throw random stuff at the audience with no real intention to paying it off later on.

He’s gonna want those weapons when he gets ‘home’ too, and he didn’t know how long it was going to take to get back.
 
There’s also the strangeness with the water which was so important it made the previews. Also summarily dropped.

Lots of writer and hence idea turnover here.

It was also implied heavily in the third episode there were lots of black ops style science experiments on the Discovery, not just the Spore Drive. Yet we see absolutely nothing about any of them again.
 
It's clear the first season is a bit of a fustercluck from Bryan Fuller leaving at the last second and the writers and producers constantly shifting to deliver the show by its third or fourth official deadline.
 
The water, as far as I can tell, was just to show that seriously weird shit went down when testing the spore drive. And they were having trouble with it at that time. Whether it did that later or not, hard to say. They show the ship doing the spin-dizzy thing instead of showing melting walls.
 
Add to that list Lorca's weird “menagerie” where he dissected all sorts of lifeforms in order to weaponize what he finds for a war he really doesn't have a part in. A lot of aspects of the show really only seems to have been incorporated for shock value or to throw random stuff at the audience with no real intention to paying it off later on.

Absolutely. They destroyed the Lorca character for shock value, the only thing the writers seem capable of writing: plot twists.

Let's have Georgiou murder her aides in a pointless, gruesome scene. Shock value.
Let's have the characters use the F word as a one-off, never to be spouted again. Shock value.
Tyler is Voq but does nowhere with it? At least we shocked the audience (had they not figured it out within weeks of Tyler's intro)
Lorca is actually from the mirror universe? Hell, who cares about the past twelve episodes of development, when we can have a big closing shot of our captain crushing someone's head with his foot.

So dumb. Never has a series jumped the shark so early, 10 episodes in must be a new record

Will Burnham and her zero personality be captain in season 2 I wonder?

The Federation starship that can jump anywhere in the blink of an eye, fine, suspend disbelief.
A Starfleet captain with a menagerie of deadly weapons and gets turned on by war? Something different, great.
Turning a Klingon into a human and fooling everyone? IDIOTIC.
 
That's just not true.

Novels are edited all the time, thats how you get things like "First Edition" and "Second Edition" books.
I'm talking about novels. Typically, those are not updated with versions like that. Textbooks, sure. Novels, no. Sometimes they'll make minor corrections in reprints. Very rarely will the publisher change the content. I recall one instance in a Star Trek novel (don't know the title) where Spock mind raped another character and then made her forget. Apparently that was removed in reprints. But, that's the exception that proves the rule.

Reprints of novels as a rule don't change the story content.
 
Let's have Georgiou murder her aides in a pointless, gruesome scene. Shock value.
Nope. There was a point.

Let's have the characters use the F word as a one-off, never to be spouted again. Shock value.
Nope. Emphasis.


Tyler is Voq but does nowhere with it? At least we shocked the audience (had they not figured it out within weeks of Tyler's intro)
Huh? That plot-line hasn't concluded yet.

Lorca is actually from the mirror universe? Hell, who cares about the past twelve episodes of development, when we can have a big closing shot of our captain crushing someone's head with his foot.
See above.

So dumb. Never has a series jumped the shark so early, 10 episodes in must be a new record
Yawn.

Will Burnham and her zero personality be captain in season 2 I wonder?
Yawn again.

By what metric?
 
Nope. There was a point.

What point? What point was there to have Georgiou throw a saw slicing her aides heads. It added nothing. We get it, mirror universe people are irredeemably EVIL. It was done for shock value and nothing else.

Nope. Emphasis.

Emphasis?? That's all you've got? Lol.

Huh? That plot-line hasn't concluded yet.

Fair enough, let's see if that moronic plot point redeems itself and becomes something good.

Yawn again.

You think Burnham has a personality? I like her character but she's a robot. One who speaks in carefully-worded statements.

By what metric?

Common sense.
 
Again, where is the shock value? It's a word.

A word that's never been used in Star Trek before in 50 years, 13 films and five series. But hey it got a ton of social media chat, job done.

Erm, they did. That's why we have this fucking conversation

*rolls eyes*. "Use it" as in use it frequently, with confidence, more than once. As in not just a token one-off done to be a talking point on Twitter.
 
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