• Welcome! The TrekBBS is the number one place to chat about Star Trek with like-minded fans.
    If you are not already a member then please register an account and join in the discussion!

Spoilers DC's Legends of Tomorrow - Season 3

Because Worf moved to DS9 and was lost in the shuffle--never as significant a character as he was on TNG. James is even lower on the totem pole, and aside from a gimmicky "look who is coming to Legends" episode or two,he would be as marginalized as ever.
I've always thought Kira and the Bajorans got lost in the shuffle when Worf and his Klingon baggage showed up.
 
In the first season Jimmy was kind of a surrogate and representive for Clark. But after that we actually met Clark and Kara had matured enough she did not need the type of advice he use to give her.

Truth is there not much difference between Jimmy and Winn in terms of lack of character development storylines. Winn gets more screentime now because he works at the DEO and makes his geeky comments. Otherwise he just delivers exposition. Expectations are higher because Jimmy is an established character before this show.
 
I'm surprised nobody has considered this but the new Firestorm will most likely be Proffessor Stein's daughter. I even thought when she was created last year that she would be a eventual regular. Plus if I recall she is a scientist or engineer. I wonder if you could even see her bringing the new baby aboard. Having a baby aboard might be fun for awhile or they could age the baby and see him/her(I forget) at a older age. Why she would do this is any number of reasons:

1 The baby has become a anachorism and they have to found it.
2 See wants to keep him/her safe from time travel alterations.
3 The baby dies.
4 She inherits the powers and has to leave to protect her baby form herself because she can't control them.

Jason
 
I don't think there's going to be a new Firestorm. If there were, they wouldn't have dropped Jax as a regular along with Stein. It seems like they're going to be bringing in a different hero.


1 The baby has become a anachorism and they have to found it.

Aberration, not anachronism. An anachronism is something displaced into its past or future. An aberration is a change in the history of a given time period, like a couple's history being altered so that they had a child and grandchild they didn't have in the original history.

It should be easy to remember the difference, because the show uses "anachronism" in the exact same sense it's used in everyday life, as something that exists earlier or later in history than it ought to.
 
I'd rather they don't add anyone else to the permanent roster this season, to give Zari more time to fit in.
Agreed. As funny as Routh is playing the goober, he was always a more logical choice than Jax for chief Waverider engineer, and he's had pretty much no significant plot arcs since Jax became the ship tech guy, Nate elbowed in on his upbeat geek vibe, and Kendra dumped him for pudding-face dude. Ray and Zari could both use more attention, as could Nate and Amaya, now tha I think on it. Wally is an obvious fit for replacing Jax, with his engineering background (he's too obvious a replacement, really), but I really don't want a speedster as a Legend. If we must have a new Legend, though, Pied Piper might be a good fit. (Or maybe Thea? Can't live in big brother's shadow forever.)

Anyhow, I was genuinely touched by and impressed with Drameh's performance these past two episodes, which is impressive considering I found his acting uniquely awful for much of the first season. And the actor playing young Stein has never been better, either. I don't remember him channeling Garber so heavily in his earlier appearances; am I wrong, or was he playing up the connection as the character aged, which would be both awesome and logical? It does seem to me, though, that he should have had at least some gray hair, if he was going to age into Stein as we know him in 25 more years.

Anyhow, another excellent ep, freed from the shackles of that stupid crossover event. :p

ETA: Leo's Stein puppet was amazing, as was the smash cut from... Sarah? not having it one bit, to Ray enthusiastically quizzing it on technobabble that Leo would have no idea how to answer. I'd complain about how dumb they've made Ray if Routh weren't so damn funny and likeable at it.
 
Last edited:
A bit late, but Happy Beebo Day everyone!
0tlseW2.gif

Wah Wah Beebo Love You! :)
 

Series regular -- okay, then. There was a recent mention from a cast member that he'd be joining for "a little bit," but I guess they were being coy.

It could be handy to have a speedster on the crew, what with Thawne being back from nonexistence and an active threat again. (I wonder if the reason "Crisis on Earth-X"'s Thawne was spared from erasure is because he was in the Earth-X universe at the time the others were erased.)

I wonder how he'll relate to the other characters. We know he and Nate are well-acquainted and have fought crime together. Rory probably doesn't like him. He'll probably get along fine with Ray, because it's Ray. As for the rest, hard to say.
 
It could be handy to have a speedster on the crew, what with Thawne being back from nonexistence and an active threat again. (I wonder if the reason "Crisis on Earth-X"'s Thawne was spared from erasure is because he was in the Earth-X universe at the time the others were erased.)

I wonder if Damien Dark's powers are able to counter a speedster? If not, Kid Flash should make short work of Dark before the rest of the team even has time to blink. I mean, before Damien even finishes doing his hand wavy telekinetic thing, Kid Flash should be able to zip in, hand cuff and zip or out or zip in and rescue the team in a blink of an eye. Speedsters are quite overpowered if you really think about it but the writers seem to slow them down or dumb them down to make things interesting.
 
I want there to be a scene where he holds the door and everyone walks through, and Rory goes last. After walking through the door, he stops for a beat and grunts, "Thanks, Obama."

*It would be the second best ever Obama Mic drop.
 
Hold on... The president in December 2016 in "Invasion!" was some anonymous white guy whose VP was a black woman, Susan Brayden. Presumably they'd been in office since January 2013. So was Obama only a one-term president on Earth-1?
 
Hold on... The president in December 2016 in "Invasion!" was some anonymous white guy whose VP was a black woman, Susan Brayden. Presumably they'd been in office since January 2013. So was Obama only a one-term president on Earth-1?

I suppose he could have been elected earlier on their Earth. On our Earth, Obama had a failed bid (in the Democratic primary) for a House seat in 2000. A win in 2000 could have positioned him for either a direct run from the House to the presidency in 2004 or a jump to Illinois Governor in the 2002 race (which also elected a Democrat in our timeline) and then a 2004 presidential run. Remove 9/11 from history, and George W. Bush may have been vulnerable to a loss in 2004.
 
A speedster seems almost too powerful these misfits but I suppose they often temper what a speedster should do in stories as needed for the plot. Good thing it's not Barry or they'd have to spend every episode fixing the timeline he broke in the previous one.
 
I wonder if Damien Dark's powers are able to counter a speedster? If not, Kid Flash should make short work of Dark before the rest of the team even has time to blink. I mean, before Damien even finishes doing his hand wavy telekinetic thing, Kid Flash should be able to zip in, hand cuff and zip or out or zip in and rescue the team in a blink of an eye. Speedsters are quite overpowered if you really think about it but the writers seem to slow them down or dumb them down to make things interesting.

Well Damien Darhk was pretty subservient to Reverse-Flash.
 
A speedster seems almost too powerful these misfits but I suppose they often temper what a speedster should do in stories as needed for the plot. Good thing it's not Barry or they'd have to spend every episode fixing the timeline he broke in the previous one.

FIrestorm should have been too powerful as well. He rarely used the full potential of his powers which was matter transmutation.

Two of the most popular characters Sarah and Mick have no powers at all. The others who do only occasionally use their powers or wear their costumes. I wonder how much we will see Wally in his Kid Flash suit. They are more often in clothing of the time periods they are visiting.

I suspect we will see a lot of humorous uses of Wally's speed. Like it's use to stealthy move objects and people without the locals of the time understanding how it's happened.
 
A speedster seems almost too powerful these misfits but I suppose they often temper what a speedster should do in stories as needed for the plot.

They dial back the characters' powers a lot, both for budgetary reasons and to avoid having any one team member be too powerful compared to the others. As Dick said, Firestorm should've been transmuting things all the time, but instead they made that something they only learned belatedly and used infrequently. Amaya doesn't use her Vixen powers nearly as frequently or extensively as Mari does in the animated show, and I don't think we've ever seen her use the power of flight that Mari has used. Atom almost never uses his "embiggening" power. And Zari only seems to have wind powers, which is quite a step down from the Isis character she's based on; the original TV character was virtually omnipotent, with the ability to control all elements, talk to animals, use telepathy, telekinesis, and clairvoyance, transmute matter, alter time, etc. (though she only used these terrifying godlike abilities to catch petty thieves and rescue lost schoolkids), while the comics' version had the equivalent powers of Shazam/Captain Marvel plus elemental control and mental powers.

It's the Superman/Justice League problem. If one team member is too powerful, it obviates the need for the rest of the team. That's a large part of why the writers so often contrived to keep Stein and Jax apart so they couldn't form Firestorm, and it might have been a factor in their decision to drop the Firestorm character altogether (rather than finding a new partner for Jax to merge with).
 
If you are not already a member then please register an account and join in the discussion!

Sign up / Register


Back
Top