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Killer Asteroid

MAGolding

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In "The Paradise Syndrome" a giant asteroid is only 2 month away from striking an inhabited planet and killing all life on it. Our heroes are trying to divert the asteroid.

Spock says:

SPOCK: Doctor, that asteroid is almost as large as your Earth's moon. Far enough away, the angle necessary to divert it enough to avoid destruction is minute, but as the asteroid approaches this planet, the angle becomes so great that even the power of a starship

Spock may mean that the asteroid has almost:

1) the mass of Earth's moon.

2) the volume of Earth's moon, its mass depending on its relative density.

3) the dimensions of Earth's moon. Since the volume varies with the cube of the dimensions, an asteroid with 0.90 the diameter of Earth's moon would have only 0.729 the volume of Earth's moon.

For the sake of being able to divert the asteroid we may hope Spock doesn't mean almost the mass of Earth's moon.

Earth's moon Luna has a mass of 7.432 times 10 to the 22nd power kilograms, which is 0.012300 of Earth's mass. It has a volume of 2.1958 times 10 to the 10th power cubic kilometers, giving it a density of 3.344 grams per cubic centimeter, about 0.606 of Earth's average density. It has an average radius of 1,737.1 kilometers (1,079.3839 miles), 0.273 of Earth's, giving it an average diameter of 3,474.2 kilometers (2,158.7678 miles).

If Spock meant that the asteroid had a diameter "almost as large as your Earth's moon", he might have meant that it was 0.75 the diameter of the moon, or 2,605.65 kilometers (1,619.075 miles). That would give it a volume 0.4218 that of the moon, and thus a mass 0.4218 of the moon if they had the same density. If the asteroid had a lower density it might have about 0.33 of the mass of the moon or something. That's a mighty big asteroid.

Astronomical bodies above a certain mass will have a gravity intense enough to overcome the resistance of their materials and pull themselves into spheroidal shapes like planets and achieve hydrostatic equilibrium.

Rhea, a moon of Saturn, was said to be the smallest body in our solar system carefully measured and probably in hydrostatic equilibrium, with a radius of 763.8 kilometers (457.82 miles) and a diameter of 1,527.6 kilometers (949.20 miles). But the asteroid Ceres, with a a radius of 473 kilometers (293.909 miles) and a diameter of 946 kilometers (587.8 miles) is said to be in hydrostatic equilibrium and considered a dwarf planet.

Vesta, the second largest asteroid, has a slightly irregular shape. It has dimensions of 572.6 kilometers (355.79 miles) by 557.2 kilometers (343.23 miles) by 446.4 kilometers (277.38 miles).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Solar_System_objects_by_size

Here you can see an image of the asteroid from the original version of "The Paradise Syndrome".

http://www.theviewscreen.com/the-paradise-syndrome/

Here you can see the less colorful but more realistic version of the asteroid from the remastered version of the episode.

http://www.startrek.com/database_article/paradise-syndrome-the

You can see that the asteroid seems more irregular than Vesta and thus probably a lot smaller than Vesta.

How can the asteroid be almost as large as Earth's moon and yet have such an irregular shape?

Possibly it is part of the nickel-iron core of some larger body that was struck by another body and shattered. If that was recent enough, the solar system in the episode would be full of dangerous fragments threatening the planets, and the asteroid might not yet have pulled itself into a spherical shape. I don't know how to calculate how long it would take for an irregular nickel-iron core fragment to pull itself into a spherical shape.

SPOCK: To destroy it. A narrow beam concentrated on a single spot will split that mass.

SPOCK: Co-ordinates, Mister Chekov.
CHEKOV: Tau eight point seven. Beta point zero four one.
SPOCK: That is our target. The asteroid's weakest point.
CHEKOV: Almost dead centre, sir.
SPOCK: Lock all phasers on that mark. Maximum intensity, narrow beam. I want to split that fissure wide open.
MCCOY: You sound like you're cutting a diamond.

Many stony - not nickel-iron - asteroids are made of two or more smaller pieces loosely joined together, and rotate fast enough that their centrifugal force is almost enough to overcome their gravity and fling them apart. Thus they have weak spots where their pieces are joined together and cutting them at the junction will cause them to fly apart, possibly with enough speed to drift far enough to avoid the planet after 2 months.

So Spock's strategy would make a lot of sense with a more normal sized asteroid that is weakly held together.

Maybe Earth's entire solar system is a member of the Federation, but is subdivided into several subdivisions that are not subject to each other, such as the Martian colonies, the United Earth, and the moon government. Thus Earth's physical moon is not under Earth's jurisdiction, only that of its own government, the United Solar System, and the Federation. But maybe an asteroid, a little larger than the asteroid in "The paradise Syndrome" has been moved into Earth orbit to be mined. Maybe that asteroid is under the political jurisdiction of the United Earth Government, and is owned by the United Earth, and thus by the citizens of Earth.

There is reason to believe that during the Cardassian occupation of Bajor several asteroids were moved into orbit around Bajor and mined until they were totally destroyed, thus making the number of Bajoran moons fluctuate.

In the DS9 first season episode "The Nagus" Nog reads a text (date of composition uncertain):

JAKE: That was pretty good. Want to try some more?
NOG: The lar, largest planet is Bajor. It has three moons?
JAKE: You got it. Keep going, keep going.
NOG: The third moon, it has

And in another first season episode, "Progress" Sisko makes a log entry:

Station log. Stardate 46844.3. With the help of the Federation, Bajor is about to commence its first large-scale energy transfer, the tapping of the molten core of its fifth moon, Jeraddo.

Maybe Spock was thinking of that hypothetical asteroid moved into Earth orbit as being a similar temporary second moon of Earth when he said:

SPOCK: Doctor, that asteroid is almost as large as your Earth's moon...

That would make "The Paradise Syndrome" seem much more plausible.
 
I'd like to suggest that Spock did not say "Your Earth's Moon," but rather Yorurth's moon. And as we all know, Yorurth has a very small moon, just a few kilometers in diameter. It's more like the moons of Mars than our own moon. So this is all a simple misunderstanding.
 
In both versions of the TOS episode, the rock has surface features we would wish to minimize in size for realism, regardless of the overall size of the rock. OTOH, the "Moon-like" size of the rock directly affects Spock's diverting task even before the issue of splitting the rock arises. So it would seem preferable to think Spock is talking about mass to be diverted.

How to combine small size with great mass? Density need not be our only parameter. Speed would also affect mass, and we want lots of speed so that Spock's mad dash at high warp for "hours" will match the flight of the rock for 60 days!

A smallish rock with a big boost on its apparent mass from Einstein might be our best hope in the end... Now, the circumstances where mass added this way would affect sideways pushing would need to be thought out, but it could be made to work.

Significantly, VOY "Rise" tells us small sublight rocks are no threat if even a single starship can play goalkeeper with its weapons. The threat is so categorically dismissed that one is tempted to think Spock should have been able to pulverize Earth's Moon in two months, and certainly to split anything smaller, although not necessarily in the time allotted.

Timo Saloniemi
 
I never understood why the Enterprise didn't divert the asteroid before they investigated the planet, why Spock didn't leave a search party on the planet to search for Kirk while he dealt with the asteroid and why they weren't able to divert the asteroid after all Spock's calculations.

Can asteroids even travel as fast as maximum sublight ?

I suppose its easy to be clever in hindsight.
 
Well, in hindsight it's probably for the best that Spock didn't leave a search party behind, as once the E lost warp power the search party would be stuck on the planet as well. I can see the writers avoiding that option for just that reason, though in-universe it doesn't make a ton of sense.

Was the E planning to divert the asteroid at all before they learned there was intelligent life on the planet? It's been ages since I've seen the episode.
 
I'd like to suggest that Spock did not say "Your Earth's Moon," but rather Yorurth's moon. And as we all know, Yorurth has a very small moon, just a few kilometers in diameter. It's more like the moons of Mars than our own moon. So this is all a simple misunderstanding.
I like that! Similar to my own notion that Sybok intended to go into the centre of the Galaque Sea (an ancient nebula from Vulcan lore).

Now, if we could only justify a reason as to why the asteroid is going so darn fast...
 
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If the asteroid was the size of Earth's moon, wouldn't it be basically a (imperfect) spherical body? From a distance it would look like a ball.

I think Spock was exaggerating to get a point across to McCoy.
Was the E planning to divert the asteroid at all before they learned there was intelligent life on the planet? I
If there was no intelligent life, why divert the asteroid at all?
 
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If the asteroid was the size of Earth's moon, wouldn't it be basically a (imperfect) spherical body? From a distance it would look like a ball.

I think Spock was exaggerating to get a point across to McCoy.
If there was no intelligent life, why divert the asteroid at all?

That is the point of my post.

Spock always tells the exact, precise truth. Of course sometimes there are several different meanings that can be deduced from Spock's words, and If you don't guess which one you could be misled.

I pointed out that if the asteroid was almost the size of Luna it should look spherical - too spherical for the human eye to see any difference from a perfect sphere. And as Timo said the mountains on it should be too small to be seen when you could see the whole asteroid.

So I speculated that:

1) The asteroid was almost as large as the moon (Luna) but still looked irregular because it had only recently been formed out of the nickel-iron core of a larger body smashed in an interplanetary collusion and it hadn't had enough time for its gravity to pull it into a sphere.

2) Earth's moon Luna was no longer legally either Earth's property nor under Earth's jurisdiction, being under the Lunar government - Luna, Earth, Mars, and the rest of the Solar System all being part of the Federation, of course. But Earth did have a temporary moon that was owned by Earth and under Earth's legal jurisdiction, a smallish asteroid, a little bigger than the asteroid in "The Paradise Syndrome", brought into Earth orbit to be mined, and thus "Earth's moon" according to Spock.

Timo also speculated that:

In both versions of the TOS episode, the rock has surface features we would wish to minimize in size for realism, regardless of the overall size of the rock. OTOH, the "Moon-like" size of the rock directly affects Spock's diverting task even before the issue of splitting the rock arises. So it would seem preferable to think Spock is talking about mass to be diverted.

How to combine small size with great mass? Density need not be our only parameter. Speed would also affect mass, and we want lots of speed so that Spock's mad dash at high warp for "hours" will match the flight of the rock for 60 days!

A smallish rock with a big boost on its apparent mass from Einstein might be our best hope in the end... Now, the circumstances where mass added this way would affect sideways pushing would need to be thought out, but it could be made to work.

So Timo suggested that an ordinary sized asteroid might have had it's mass multiplied tens, hundreds, or thousands of times by traveling at relativistic velocity, almost the speed of light. That would multiply it's mass, and thus it's momentum and destructive power, compared to that of any planet it slammed into, while the asteroid remained at it's normal mass in relation to itself and so would not pull itself into a sphere with its gravity.

Proponents of that theory need to calculate the speed at which the asteroid would be moving to multiply it's mass that much. And also come up with an explanation of how the asteroid was accelerated to that velocity.

According to the teaser of "The Paradise Syndome":

KIRK: What's the nearest concentration of life forms, Mister Spock?
SPOCK: Bearing one one seven mark four.
KIRK: And how much time did you say we have to investigate?
SPOCK: If we are to divert the asteroid which is on a collision course with this planet, we must warp out of orbit within thirty minutes. Every second we delay arriving at the deflection point compounds the problem, perhaps past solution.
KIRK: You did say thirty minutes?
SPOCK: Yes, sir.
KIRK: Then let's go. Let's find out what life forms are blessed by this environment.

This indicates they were planning to divert the asteroid before they found intelligent life forms on the planet.
 
^I'm not sure how that dialog indicates they were already planning to divert the asteroid. It sounds more like they knew the asterioid was going to hit the planet but weren't sure whether it would be any great loss if it did.
 
If an alien starship had diverted an asteroid for us 65 million years ago, dinosaurs might still rule the Earth.
 
Perhaps the Enterprise should have checked whether Moonbase Alpha was on the moon sized asteroid before attempting to blow it up. The moon from Space 1999 was travelling super-fast.
 
I never understood why the Enterprise didn't divert the asteroid before they investigated the planet, .

Because then we would have been deprived of KEEEEROCK!!!
God, I can't stand this episode. I'd like to travel back in time and make this script mysteriously disappear.
 
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