Stupid things happen in Starfleet all the time. The TOS was based on it; Captain, XO and doctor always going on away missions together into the unknown... yeah very smart policy.
Spoilers Dr. Hugh Culber Despite Yourself Spoilers!
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I really like Culber and do hope to see more of this character.
What a way to add even more tension to Tyler’s character, though. He’s capable of killing At any time and what will he do when pressured in the MU. This ep was almost too much, too soon!
What a way to add even more tension to Tyler’s character, though. He’s capable of killing At any time and what will he do when pressured in the MU. This ep was almost too much, too soon!
Stamets goes back in time and stops the death
Only a flesh wound...........
This is my real issue with it, and the episode. It is such an annoying and overdone trope that the gay character dies. Especially when in a stable, positive relationship. It's nasty and problematic, and I'm surprised at the Discovery writing team given how much they harped on about diversity before the show aired.
We do have an episode coming up called What's Past is Prologue after all. Although I suspected that may refer to the 'rehabilitation' of Tyler and/or Mirror Lorca.
One of the producers or writers his gay himself IIRC. My mind is blanking on who
my problem with the death of culber is twofold:
1. he died with no fanfare and no emotion. for a character who had been so warmly received by the audience, his death was unemotional. discovery hasn't been a particularly sentimental show, but i really think the show missed an opportunity to grieve culber, or even just feel the ramifications of his demise. the episode moved on so quickly, that moment needed to be bigger and feel more weighty. i know his death will have ripples in future stories, but the moment of his death came and went and it was ugly.
2. discovery is quickly dispensing with diversity. i understand their reasons for killing culber, even for killing georgiou and landry. but so far the series has treated its women of color and now gays pretty terribly. i don't think for a second they have an anti-diversity agenda (clearly it's the opposite), but it's an unhappy accident they need to be more aware of in the future.
1. he died with no fanfare and no emotion. for a character who had been so warmly received by the audience, his death was unemotional. discovery hasn't been a particularly sentimental show, but i really think the show missed an opportunity to grieve culber, or even just feel the ramifications of his demise. the episode moved on so quickly, that moment needed to be bigger and feel more weighty. i know his death will have ripples in future stories, but the moment of his death came and went and it was ugly.
2. discovery is quickly dispensing with diversity. i understand their reasons for killing culber, even for killing georgiou and landry. but so far the series has treated its women of color and now gays pretty terribly. i don't think for a second they have an anti-diversity agenda (clearly it's the opposite), but it's an unhappy accident they need to be more aware of in the future.
This aspect of it is something that didn't occur to me right away but after seeing comments from LGBTQ viewers on Twitter after the show, I understand that and it's a totally valid problem. I'm curious to see whether they walk it back somehow. Wilson Cruz did hint on his Twitter that this may not really be the end. Still, I'm sure that death was upsetting and problematic for a lot of people regardless of how the writers deal with it or rectify it later.
you're probably right. i hope so.
i'm pretty sure it will feature heavily throughout the rest of the season.
i found it to be further game-of-thrones-ification of star trek, which i'm not into.
Again, the weird thing is that immediately after the episode they all but said that Culber is coming back (whether in mirror form or otherwise). Even if they had this planned, they stepped on the suspense/controversy - presumably to quell the outrage. But if they didn't want the outrage, Tyler could have just knocked him out and it would have had the same story effect. That really makes it seem like they made a 180 on Culber's arc after this episode already went into production.
