I can agree with much of that.
Spoilers Star Wars: The Last Jedi - Grading & Discussion
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I can agree with much of that.
Rose saved his life, whereas Finn would have died going for the gun. She made a decision, took a chance, and had no regrets.
That's explaining herself.
I think we just like to pick stuff apart to have something to rage about. This was a movie, and as SW ones go, better than maybe most. I place it higher than the prequels and the New Hope remake, Force Awakens.
The wrong decision, IMO. She's in a coma now. She saved Finn from certain death by gambling with his and her life. She can be grateful that the script-writer wants to bring her back.
There is not much picking required, when the script-writer leads his "good" characters into the dark by having other "good" characters withhold information. This stuff falls apart when it becomes clear to the audience that their time was wasted watching something that could have easily been avoided from the outset. Even if it requires one of the "good" characters explaining her plans to the other "good" characters.
I am at work and everyone looked at me when I couldn't stop laughing.
The only thing missing is more Empire callbacks. They need to go to cloud city and Hoth somehow.
^^^
Hey, that Resistance Planet at the end looked A LOT like Hoth (I even mentioned 'Hoth again?" to the friends I was with when they did the first outside shot of the Resistance) - so much so, that's probably WHY they had the one Resistance fighter suddenly kicking up the red 'salt' as he walked (which we first thought was t\he guy bleeding all over the place due to some wound.)
In the midst of all the 'butthurt' over this movie, SlashFilm has published the most succinct analysis and rebuttal of said 'butthurt' I've seen, and that I think needs to be shared with the sane parts of the fandom:
http://www.slashfilm.com/last-jedi-backlash/
http://www.slashfilm.com/last-jedi-backlash/
How much do you think Disney paid them??? ;-)
Do NOT sign that petition. Not even as a joke.
Yeah there is a lot of butthurt. Im not exactly sure where the line is, where not liking a film turns into butthurt, but some of the reaction has seriously crossed over into that.
that being said, I didn't think the film was particularly good. It was "ok" and honestly, I probably only say "ok" because I like Star Wars and may give some of the elements a pass.
If this film was more aptly titled "Space Wizards Ruin The Universe.... Again" I'd probably be more honest and give the film a "D"
Why is it "butthurt" to shine a light on the obvious story-telling shortcomings in TLJ? I'm, btw, not talking about people not getting to see what they expected to see. The problems this movie has would also be problems in any other movie. You just hear more people talk about them loudly because it is Star Wars, and scifi-fans are very vocal in their criticisms.
It's butthurt when you say "this is the worst movie of all time". It's butthurt to send death threats to Rian Johnson. It's butthurt to make a botnet that decreases the audience rating of the movie.
It is not butthurt to disagree with the direction a movie (any movie) took, and to explain why you feel that way.
I gave it a C-. The movie is dragged down by it's pointless and unnecessary sub-plot.
Agreed.
Just such a sad element of human society. To threaten over a bad film....
So given the "fan" reaction and the return of JJ Abrams, I have very serious concerns that a lot of what the Last Jedi has done will be undone. Will Kylo Renn's action be later shown to have been the result of manipulation by a shadowy sith lord, who gets killed in the final scene of Episode 9? Will Luke return as a force ghost to give Rey formal Jedi training? Will Phasma turn out to be Rey's mother? I sure hope not. The new Lucasfilm made a decision to make a left turn with Last Jedi. I hope they stick to the new path, even if its a bumpy road.
I agree with Satron here.
The whole Poe-fiasco could have been avoided with Leia and Dern's character explaining herself (or the previously mentionned suspicion of a traitor on board raised). One sentence. Rey was awfully underused until she lifts all those stones... she just vanishes from Snoke's ship to reappear on the Falcon (of course implied that Chewie waited around and picked up Snoke's escape pod etc.)
And I'm not talking about Luke's death, the lack of a sword fight between him and Kylo (personally thought the fight was pretty awesome, reflecting Luke's changed attitude in buying time over actually attacking Kylo - and him reusing Obi-Wan's words from ANH), Leia's passive attitude (expected her to either stay on the main ship or stay on the planet to confront Ben herself... a face-face scene which we're now deprived of).
This movie has quite a few plot- and pacing issues, regardless of expectation or franchises attached to it.
The whole Poe-fiasco could have been avoided with Leia and Dern's character explaining herself (or the previously mentionned suspicion of a traitor on board raised). One sentence. Rey was awfully underused until she lifts all those stones... she just vanishes from Snoke's ship to reappear on the Falcon (of course implied that Chewie waited around and picked up Snoke's escape pod etc.)
And I'm not talking about Luke's death, the lack of a sword fight between him and Kylo (personally thought the fight was pretty awesome, reflecting Luke's changed attitude in buying time over actually attacking Kylo - and him reusing Obi-Wan's words from ANH), Leia's passive attitude (expected her to either stay on the main ship or stay on the planet to confront Ben herself... a face-face scene which we're now deprived of).
This movie has quite a few plot- and pacing issues, regardless of expectation or franchises attached to it.
which one?
The story of "Rose" and her humble and angry beginnings that we don't need nor care about?
The arms dealers on planet Las Vegas?
the power struggle between admiral Rubber Face and Poe?
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