Yeah, because they worked so well, and I'm sure they totally make up for the fact that he can't feel his penis anymore and stuff...
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It always cracks me up when people say that there were no consequences to Civil War. The whole movie was about consequences. General Secretary Ross laid it all out in front of them along with casualty figures from The Chitauri attack, the Triskellion, Sokovia and Lagos (although he conveniently left out Harlem, which was his own damn fault). We saw the consequences of Sokovia first hand in the form of Zemo. We saw the injured, dead and dying in Lagos. We'll see the consequences of this movie moving forward. Just because there aren't any dead heroes doesn't mean the movie had no consequence. Speaking of dead Marvel heroes, I wonder what Quicksilver, Yondu and the Warriors Three have to say on that subject?
To be fair to the Avengers, the Chitauri attack was going to happen, it wasn't their fault and it was BS for Ross to blame that on them. I mean, I'm Pro Cap/Anti-Registration anyway, but bringing up the New York attack was stupid (and Sokovia was strictly Stark's fault, not the fault of the whole team, but no need to get into a Civil War discussion here).
Finishing of my little tangent and getting on topic, you're correct that Civil War was about consequences. The MCU does go through changes, and there are real stakes to what happens.
So you're one of the types who wanted them to execute most of the cast and have Tony hunt Steve for the rest of the MCU until one of them is dead. In other words.
Yes, that is exactly what he said...
People were not talking about the consequences that led to the events of "Civil War". They were referring to the consequences of the Avengers' breakup. The only real consequences I can think of was what happened to SHIELD in the show's Season Four. As for the MCU movies that followed "Civil War" . . . I'm at a loss.
^ Yeah. Like Doctor Strange!... Which had nothing to do with any of the characters in Civil War so why would it...
Or Guardians 2!... Which had nothing to do with any of the characters in Civil War so why would it... (also set in outer space, years before CW anyway...)
And Thor 3!... Which featured the two Avengers who weren't in CW and weren't even on Earth at the time, so why would it... and most of the movie is also set in outer space...
Well I'm convinced.
Or Guardians 2!... Which had nothing to do with any of the characters in Civil War so why would it... (also set in outer space, years before CW anyway...)
And Thor 3!... Which featured the two Avengers who weren't in CW and weren't even on Earth at the time, so why would it... and most of the movie is also set in outer space...
Well I'm convinced.
Pretty much how I was going to reply, but you said it better than I was going to so I'll just quote you for posterity.
Well . . . Peter Parker was on Earth on the time. He had participated in the battle at the Berlin airport on behalf of Tony Stark. The media is aware of Spider-man. And yet . . . why hasn't the U.S. government or Thaddeus Ross made an appearance in Queens? Why hasn't Peter been forced or coerced into signing the Sokovia Accords? In fact, Stephen Strange should have been approached, considering what happened in both Manhattan and Hong Kong.
Democrats are calling for antitrust hearings concerning Disney's purchase of 20th Century Fox.
And how much does the rest of the world knows about what happened in Manhattan and Hong Kong? The battle in Manhattan was illusory and the one in Hong Kong was reversed.
Was it ever actually established that Peter hasn't signed the Accords?
And how much does the rest of the world knows about what happened in Manhattan and Hong Kong? The battle in Manhattan was illusory and the one in Hong Kong was reversed.
That was not what Cap's message said, he just said he was willing to help in major crisis. Even if he's willing to work with Tony to help save the planet, that doesn't mean that anything is being ignored or forgotten about. There's a big difference between being willing to help someone with who pissed you off in potentially world ending crisis, and actually forgiving that person.
No, and it would make no sense for that to be the case. He was literally working for Ross in Civil War. Tony's basically a legal handler.
Essentially nothing, as far I can remember. Maybe a few people saw some dudes appear out of nowhere and then disappear. And there was the nurse who helped Dr. Strange - but I doubt she told anyone.
Even if anyone from Ross's unit did find out, the entire idea that any of them could actually find Dr Strange if he didn't want to be found is utterly laughable.
It sounded like Tony Stark gave Peter Parker a simplified version of why he was really needed in Berlin
"That you're wrong. You think you're right. And that makes you dangerous."
Also he was brought in to just web'em up.
He probably didn't tell Parker about any Accords and Parker was probably underage to sign.
"That you're wrong. You think you're right. And that makes you dangerous."
Also he was brought in to just web'em up.
He probably didn't tell Parker about any Accords and Parker was probably underage to sign.
What Peter was told doesn't really matter (and saying Peter just didn't know what was going on would be a terrible idea for his character - he's supposed to be borderline genius, so he can watch the news footage of Cap's rampage and put two and two together). He was brought in as part of an official operation sanctioned by Ross. If Tony had brought in an unknown, unregistered hero without Ross's approval, the very first scene after the airport should've had Ross chewing him out for doing so. Since it did not, the only logical assumption is that Ross approved Peter's presence, which means some sort of arrangement must have been made. Whether Peter signed the accords normally, or whether they came to some other solution due to him being underage, Peter is a legally sanctioned hero.
I think the accords are the reason that Tony had Peter check in with Happy everyday.
Or tony just liked messing with happy
Stark-high priority individual. Avengers level stuff
Happy-really? I don’t like to be made a fool out of.
*happy finds out he has to babysit a 15 year old*
*stark gets the last laugh*
Actually stark had 36 hours to do it on his own before Ross stepped in. So stark just picked up peter to fortify the ranks since he has been keeping an eye on peter
Stark-high priority individual. Avengers level stuff
Happy-really? I don’t like to be made a fool out of.
*happy finds out he has to babysit a 15 year old*
*stark gets the last laugh*
Actually stark had 36 hours to do it on his own before Ross stepped in. So stark just picked up peter to fortify the ranks since he has been keeping an eye on peter
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Civil War should have ended in the first 10 minutes.
"General Ross huh? Aren’t you the guy that unleashed an Abomination that destroyed half a city and Hulk had to save your collective asses? And you’re talking to us about responsibility and accountability? GTFO!"
Credits roll*.
(* And that’s a much better movie than what we actually got.)
"General Ross huh? Aren’t you the guy that unleashed an Abomination that destroyed half a city and Hulk had to save your collective asses? And you’re talking to us about responsibility and accountability? GTFO!"
Credits roll*.
(* And that’s a much better movie than what we actually got.)
He had 36 hours to complete the job before Ross sent someone else to do it instead of him. He was still working for Ross the entire time.
Art is still subjective, though Disney's secret little pory artwork imagery in any number of its movies' scenes and posters is well-known and isn't what many would call "decent". Then again, FOX got its edge by being edgy and there's very little it can be edgy with anymore. Especially without any wit applied along with it. If only they didn't cancel "The Edge", which was a better attempt to show how stale SNL was than "MadTV" ever was...
Yeah, I keep hearing about competition being good and monopolies or single ownership being bad, though some people therein love to cherrypick and make exceptions without looking at important facts... it's all good.
Doesn't change the examples he DID bring up. Or that if they sent him away the Government would've just sent in someone else.