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News FOX selling out to Disney?

I don't want to derail this thread with a side discussion, so I'll try and make this brief.

Before free agency the success they had was not based on money. Some of their biggest names had to work odd jobs in the off season.
Steinbrenner saw success with spending on free agents for two years. From 79 till around 94 they spent more money than anyone on the biggest bat or hottest arm. It got them nothing.

When Steinbrenner was banned from baseball the focus shifted to prospects & home grown players. That's what led to the success in the late 90's. When he came back, the spending started again.
Aside from 09, they won nothing.

The last few years there's been a concerted effort to bring down payroll and, once again, focus on home grown prospects.
That approach seems to be paying off.

One last point I'll make is the same people who cried about them "buying" championships when they won are generally the same people who said "you can't buy championships" when they didn't.
You can't have it both ways.

Now let's get back to discussing the other evil empire, Disney.
It was a joke...I do that.
 
made four really shit movies about monkey's ruling the earth.
I'm assuming you're talking about the original PotA movies, because there is absolutely no way you could be including Dawn and War in that. Those movies were fucking amazing.
 
I'm assuming you're talking about the original PotA movies, because there is absolutely no way you could be including Dawn and War in that. Those movies were fucking amazing.

He's probably lumping in the Tim Burton/Mark Wahlberg remake with the prequel trilogy. In which case it's still only one bad movie out of four. The original series had five films.
 
^ "Dawn", "Rise", and "War" aren't 'prequels' to anything; they're a straight-up reboot of the franchise.

But that's really beside the point, because @kirk55555 seems to think that anything that doesn't have the Disney logo attached to it sucks, and that his opinion is the only thing that matters.
 
I'm assuming you're talking about the original PotA movies, because there is absolutely no way you could be including Dawn and War in that. Those movies were fucking amazing.
I'm willing to bet he's not. :lol:
 
^ "Dawn", "Rise", and "War" aren't 'prequels' to anything; they're a straight-up reboot of the franchise.

But that's really beside the point, because @kirk55555 seems to think that anything that doesn't have the Disney logo attached to it sucks, and that his opinion is the only thing that matters.

I didn't say that, stop putting words in my mouth. Not everything without a Disney logo sucks, far from it. But, most things with a Disney logo rate from good to amazing, and most things with a FOX logo are garbage. Stuff with a Disney logo is also more consistently good, at least when we're talking about films and franchises.

They have been, ironically, absolutely terrible at animated tv shows (meaning stuff like Avengers, Spider-Man, Disney channel stuff, etc) for over a decade but its not like FOX was producing animated classics. The only part of Marvel that suffered from the Disney purchase was the animated division, with the three really good shows that were being made at the time getting cancelled and Jeph Loeb, a man who thinks that all cartoons should be Superfriends and ignoring all the advancements in even kids cartoons since then, was put in charge of shitting out a bunch of animated crap with Marvel characters. Vut, since FOX just produces the stale turds that are The Simpsons and Family Guy, its not like they were even competing with Disney in that area.

I'm assuming you're talking about the original PotA movies, because there is absolutely no way you could be including Dawn and War in that. Those movies were fucking amazing.

Ok this is a tangent, but I'm talking about the movies where humans, with jets and aircraft carriers and nuclear weapons can't beat monkeys. In the old POTA, the humans blew themselves up, which made sense. In the new ones, the monkeys rise up against people with the capability of literally killing hundreds of thousands of apes with the push of a button. None of the modern POTA films make any damn sense. Disease or not, the surviving humans have weapons the apes just can't use, I don't care how smart they are. The apes aren't bullet proof, and at some point the humans are going to say "fuck it" and just use weapons that no one can escape (even a hiding ape is going to die to a nuke or even just unrestricted use of bombs). Except they don't, because then you only have a bad movie with James Franco, not a bad trilogy. The original POTA wasn't high art, but at least it managed to explain its world in a way that allowed me to suspend my disbelief.

Also, the fourth movie I'm talking about is the movie where Marky Mark got back to "Earth" and saw a statue of an ape version of Abraham Lincoln.
 
Your attitude in this thread has been one of "only Disney is going to make more of the kinds of movies I like to see", and "only what I want to see matters", and you've repeatedly said so.

Disney isn't the only one that makes movies I like. They are the most consistently good, but other studios can produce decent stuff. That's why I'm not saying I want Disney to buy every studio. I'm fine with just FOX, one of the worst studios and one that's producing particularly nasty shit in the superhero genre (seriously, compared to stuff like Logan or Fant4stic even Man of Steel seems almost acceptable) being sold off and letting Disney take over.

So, while Disney is easily the best studio, they aren't the only good one. FOX just happens to be especially bad, and have a bunch of stuff I really want to see Disney take control of, since Disney at worst is generally still competent and FOX's average output at this point is crap.
 
FOX just happens to be especially bad, and have a bunch of stuff I really want to see Disney take control of, since Disney at worst is generally still competent and FOX's average output at this point is crap.
When they have control, that doesn't mean that they will become good. Unfortunately, if they have so many products to manage, their output may exceed their quality.

Regardless, Disney acquiring more properties is not a positive to me.
 
Let's assume for a second that Fox executives are shitty and Disney executives are great: Disney is now taking on many of those shitty Fox executives, and the shitty Fox executives may actually end up in charge of Disney in the long run. James Murdoch, for instance, may be looking to move to Disney as part of the deal, and Disney insiders have already had to play down rumors of James Murdoch becoming Bob Iger's successor as head of Disney.
 
Principal photography is complete, but the lengthy post production with the expensive effects isn't, nor have they incurred the massive publicity and advertising costs.

Should Disney decide that they'd like a crack at the Phoenix story, or just that they didn't want another take on the IP in the cinemas that close to when they planned to introduce mutants / recast the characters, it would make sense.
The deal isn't official until it gets regulatory approval, which is expected to take 18 months. Not only will post-production be complete before that happens, the movie will be in theaters before it happens.
 
But, most things with a Disney logo rate from good to amazing, and most things with a FOX logo are garbage. Stuff with a Disney logo is also more consistently good, at least when we're talking about films and franchises.

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The deal isn't official until it gets regulatory approval, which is expected to take 18 months. Not only will post-production be complete before that happens, the movie will be in theaters before it happens.

Where, exactly, did this 18 months figure come from? I can't find any real source for it online
 
I had the same thought, but it doesn't seem unreasonable given the bureaucratic process.

This may be cynical of me, but I'm not sure there's going to be a bureaucratic process on this, although if there's actual sourceable evidence confirming that my cynicism is unfounded, I'll cede to it.
 
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