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News FOX selling out to Disney?
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Somebody doesn't understand sarcasm.
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You cannot seriously be this out of touch with reality.
I loved Fox's X-Men movies dearly. I hope Dark Phoenix is a fitting last hurrah.
I'm curious what Disney will do with their versions of the characters, but it won't be the same.
I'm curious what Disney will do with their versions of the characters, but it won't be the same.
...if it comes out.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: I hope this would lead to a Marvel Studios produced version of The Fantastic Four. 
Fox isn't struggling, yet they're selling. That shows the entertainment business is getting rougher and tougher. Bob Iger and Disney remember how close Disney came to disaster at the end of the Eisner Era and have been working to prevent that from happening again because Disney may not be so lucky next time
Actually, the economic effect of monopolies or oligopolies is more mixed than people have thought historically. There are clearly problems for consumers, but it's not entirely bad for consumers. From a film perspective, the greater resources of Disney would allow it to take more risks/spend more on the big budget blockbusters. The concern is the trend that's been going for a long time related to smaller budgeted films. I think the alternative distribution models of things like Amazon or Netflix can help make up for that.
Of course, recent actions of the FCC do undercut my arguments in favor of the democratic nature of the internet.
So much doom and gloom. 
It's not the end of the world. Disney was obviously after certain properties. When it's all said and done, they will keep what they wanted and sell off or shut down the rest. "The rest" being properties that can't carry their own weight.
Personally, I don't much care. I'll still pay to see the few movies I want to see and ignore the rest. Just as I've always done.
It's not the end of the world. Disney was obviously after certain properties. When it's all said and done, they will keep what they wanted and sell off or shut down the rest. "The rest" being properties that can't carry their own weight.
Personally, I don't much care. I'll still pay to see the few movies I want to see and ignore the rest. Just as I've always done.
For the record, the Fantastic Four distribution rights were a part of the deal, just in case anyone was still wondering. Constantin has nobody else to play with.
There's no reason for Disney not to release it. The film is completely made and would cause a loss of revenue if they didn't release it.
Sure there is: Making a clean break from the FOX franchise so Marvel Studios can put all its toys in one box....
.... which would NOT be a smart decision.
I don't want to derail this thread with a side discussion, so I'll try and make this brief.
Before free agency the success they had was not based on money. Some of their biggest names had to work odd jobs in the off season.
Steinbrenner saw success with spending on free agents for two years. From 79 till around 94 they spent more money than anyone on the biggest bat or hottest arm. It got them nothing.
When Steinbrenner was banned from baseball the focus shifted to prospects & home grown players. That's what led to the success in the late 90's. When he came back, the spending started again.
Aside from 09, they won nothing.
The last few years there's been a concerted effort to bring down payroll and, once again, focus on home grown prospects.
That approach seems to be paying off.
One last point I'll make is the same people who cried about them "buying" championships when they won are generally the same people who said "you can't buy championships" when they didn't.
You can't have it both ways.
Now let's get back to discussing the other evil empire, Disney.
Principal photography is complete, but the lengthy post production with the expensive effects isn't, nor have they incurred the massive publicity and advertising costs.
Should Disney decide that they'd like a crack at the Phoenix story, or just that they didn't want another take on the IP in the cinemas that close to when they planned to introduce mutants / recast the characters, it would make sense.
It will.
So will the second Deadpool movie.
Disney's not stupid.
I'm not sure about the other films that are in the works though.
Disney will not take operational control of Fox's properties until 12 - 18 months from now. There is literally no way Deadpool 2, Dark Phoenix or anything else currently in active development is affected.
New Mutants has also wrapped principal photography.
You keep focusing so much on the X-Men movies, but they are a much much bigger company than that, and that is the problem. If this was just about the X-Men and Fantastic Four then everything would be great, but it's not.
Just for reference, here are my favorite movies Fox has released since 1-1-2000:
Titan AE
X-Men series
Castaway
Moulin Rouge!
Minority Report
Star War prequels
Avatar
New Planet of the Apes movies
Maze Runner series
The Martian
If anyone is curious here is Wikipedia's list of all of Fox's upcoming movies. I'd like to think that at least the high profile movies or ones coming out soon, like the X-Men movies, Alita: Battle Angel and The Predator will probably be safe, but big question will be the smaller movies and the stuff farther out. Since Disney already has a Pandora area at California Adventure, I'm pretty sure the Avatar movies are almost guaranteed.
Seeing The Martian on my list brings up an interesting question, what happens to the rights for books, comics, or other media that Fox purchased but hasn't produced anything for? Would they go back up for sale or just go right to Disney with everything else.
Ok, so let's say Fox as you say has put out a lesser amount of good movies. There still might be good ideas in them that might provide another outlet for a company such as Disney to do even better. Inspiration might strike a studio from an unlkely source. Even at the worst, something is bound to provide inspiration that will often arise in something good.
Nope. Disney having the X-Men movies can literally only lead to superior products. Same with most of the properties they got. Disney is not suddenly going to go down in quality. FOX wasn't even really competition at any level. They already had inferior movies, TV, etc. So, not having a company that only qualified at competition in the technical sense isn't going to effect them. Disney still has to put out good stuff or they'll lose money, and not having FOX around to shit out whatever crap Simon Kinsberg writes while taking a dump won't change that.
So, no, even if this was a monopoly (and since Paramont, WB,, Sony, and a bunch of other film companies exist, it isn't) this can really only be a good thing from a movie quality standpoint.
I'm not out of touch with reality, some people are just obsessed with saying "the sky is falling" when it quite obviously isn't. No one has to like Disney getting this stuff of course, and quality is relative, but people acting like its the filmpocalypse are laughable.
This is the only real tragedy of the whole situation. If only the deal had happened earlier
Well, hopefully the X-Men will get a reboot and that particular abomination will be forgotten.Well, Disney already proved they do better star Wars then FOX. Everything else are movies Disney could have made just as well if not better then FOX. Titan AE would probably have been a lot better, since Disney actually has the ability to make animated films. On the other hand, FOX couldn't have made The Force Awakens, The Avengers, any of Disney's animated films, etc.
nothing FOX has done, even the good things, couldn't have been done by Disney, at least the main stream stuff. I don't follow FOX all that closely outside of the few franchises I like that they ruin. I know they're the company that ruined the X-Men and FF, cancelled Firefly and made four really shit movies about monkey's ruling the earth. Besides that they're a standard movie studio.
Nope. Disney doesn't take inspiration from FOX. No one takes inspiration from FOX. Disney doesn't need to rip off films, it makes the films that studios like FOX rip off. At its most influential FOX making the X-Men movies helped jump start the superhero movie genre, but Blade and Spider-Man were just as influential if not moreso. FOX wasn't always a terrible company, but its not like they've been that impressive. No one that works there puts out good ideas, and the company keeps hiring a few people that obviously can't do the job to make movies for them (Ridley Scott and Simon Kinsberg being prime examples of people FOX should have stopped making movies with years ago).
FOX is just a pit of shit. Disney is consistently good, with an occasional bump in the road that even good companies have.
Um ... Fox didn't make the Star Wars movies.