Man, today was a particularly bad day for the future of entertainment media for Americans.
Jesus.
Jesus.
News FOX selling out to Disney?
- Thread starter Turtletrekker
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I'd much rather watch a FOX "shit" movie (like Alien: Covenant) than stand another Disney "great" movie (like Thor: Ragnarok).
This merger won't lead to "better movies".
I'd rather have the options, instead of waiting for Disney to consume all. I was tenuous on LFL and Marvel but this bothers me and the consequences will be immense.
I doubt they'll combine the existing universes. As the article pointed out, it seems likely that Feige and the Marvel people will want to start the X-Men over from scratch and do it their way, free of anyone else's creative baggage. And that means a reboot and a recasting. As I recall, when the Sony/Marvel deal was struck, there was some initial speculation about whether they'd fold the Andrew Garfield Spidey movies into the MCU, but instead they rebooted.
Considering my current disenchantment with the MCU right now, I don't know if this is good news.
Along with "Lucifer".
Along with "Lucifer".
It's not.
I loved Thor Ragnarok and thought Alien Covenant was a mediocre film at best. Most reviewers and the box office agreed with me on that.
In you opinion. In mine, a literal platypus could make a better X-Men movie then FOX at this point, and the best superhero producing group now has the X-Men rights. Same goes for basically every franchise Disney is getting. FOX has mostly just been shitting on its properties, and the merger gives the properties to a company that can actually produce good stuff regularly, instead of rare examples of good in a sea of shit like FOX.
Even with all the short term reasons all ready listed upthread, I think, in the long run, the precedent is the most concerning issue.
Even if Disney were to eventually sell-off all its other TV assets (ABC, ESPN, etc.) and buy the Murdochs outright and turn Faux Noise into a libtard snowflake haven, (That's not going to happen.), I'd still find the precedent troublesome.
If Fox didn't sell to Disney, they would have sold to Comcast. Consolidation is coming either way.
And the implications are still scary and frustrating. Especially at the short-sighted lack of recognition of what this all means.
But, "better movies" makes it all worthwhile...
Maybe if the FTC or the courts or whoever rule against this merger, Disney might have to split up the way Viacom split its TV and movie holdings back in 2009 (which is how we ended up with CBS owning Star Trek and Paramount Pictures licensing the movie rights to it). Maybe split it into one company that has the mostly live-action or adult-oriented stuff like Marvel, Lucasfilm, and the Fox franchises, and one that includes Disney Animation Studio, Pixar, the Muppets, and other kid stuff. Although that would complicate things like Marvel and Star Wars animated TV series.
I respectfully disagree. I understand that it looks like Disney is trying to own everything, but looks can be deceiving. My perspective is Disney is trying to survive and thrive in the ever-changing and ever-consolidating current mass-media market. Buying the Fox assets is Disney's biggest acquisition ever. Their next biggest was Capital Cities/ABC back in 1996 for $19 billion. Their acquisitions of Pixar, Marvel, and Lucasfilm combined were less than $20 billion.
Disney doesn't normally make deals like this. It doesn't normally buy major competitors. Some of the reasons Disney is doing it are 1) It needs the Marvel and Star Wars rights 2) It needs the content 3) With its new streaming network starting in 2019, Disney can't afford a competitor to gain that content 4) The Hulu stake would give it majority ownership, but would also be a useful bargaining chip/opportunity to make back some of the money spent on the deal 5) The AT&T potential acquisition of Time Warner, Comcast acquisition of NBC-Universal and DreamWorks Animation, as well as competition from Amazon and Netflix all drive Disney to make acquisitions to secure its future success. Another thing is that if this deal is approved, Disney will basically be set for a few years and won't need to make major acquisitions. That isn't to say it won't make any, but they would be more of the sort of thing as making deals to gain the rest of the Marvel rights or acquiring a franchise here or there (perhaps Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles due to its connection to Daredevil) or a company like The Jim Henson Company (if it became available) which Disney has sought for years. These sorts of deals would likely be in the $1-$2 billion range.
If Disney really was after having a monopoly, it would have bought Time Warner or Universal when it had the opportunity. Also, Disney wouldn't have sold Miramax, DIC, or the Power Ranger rights if it wanted a monopoly. Disney's acquisitions have been strategically made to improve or secure its position as an entertainment leader. Some like Pixar, Marvel, and Lucasfilm have been very successful while others like Maker Studios have been quite disappointing. Certainly, Disney is becoming larger and more consolidated, but so are its major competitors. Rupert Murdoch wouldn't be selling the Fox assets if things weren't getting bad, especially since Fox is in better shape than a company like Viacom. Yes, it seems like Disney is just trying to buy everything, but that's not what's really going on.
And the implications are still scary and frustrating. Especially at the short-sighted lack of recognition of what this all means.
But, "better movies" makes it all worthwhile...
Yep, better movies make stuff like this worthwhile. None of the supposed "long term ramifications" really mean much to me as a consumer. I legitimately can't see how they'd be "scary" and I can only see it being frustrating to Disney haters. Disney is the best at making movies based off of things I like, and the more stuff they have the better it is for viewers like me.
And the implications are still scary and frustrating. Especially at the short-sighted lack of recognition of what this all means.
But, "better movies" makes it all worthwhile...
In the future all movies are Taco Bell, basically, ala Demolition Man.
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Yeah, right, because they've been struggling so much...
Once you're struggling its much harder to turn things around. The best strategy is to stay in front of the competition.