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Quentin Tarantino has an idea for a ST film (kind of)
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Shatner dosnt sound too optimistic about any involvement (a little dig at how he didn't appear in ST09 or STB?)
https://twitter.com/WilliamShatner/status/937907716588150784
https://twitter.com/WilliamShatner/status/937907716588150784
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Tarantino is never gonna' direct this one.
He is basically an independant filmmaker. I doubt hard that he is willing to play by Paramounts' rules, which they'll inevitably impose, this being a multi-million dollar franchise now. Also he likes to write his movies himself, and direct his own dialogue in his own style. As soon as some "regular" Hollywood writers pen the script, I doubt he wants to direct it anymore.
Best case scenario: Tarantino has a really great concept for a movie, and the hired writers turn that into a really solid script, that is then directed by another competent, big-budget experienced director.
Also: This ain't gonna' take place in the Kelvin universe. That universe is only a faded memory in mainstream audiences' mind at this point. By 2020 it will simply be too old and too laden with backstory to attract new viewers. Except if it's a reboot of TNG or something.
He is basically an independant filmmaker. I doubt hard that he is willing to play by Paramounts' rules, which they'll inevitably impose, this being a multi-million dollar franchise now. Also he likes to write his movies himself, and direct his own dialogue in his own style. As soon as some "regular" Hollywood writers pen the script, I doubt he wants to direct it anymore.
Best case scenario: Tarantino has a really great concept for a movie, and the hired writers turn that into a really solid script, that is then directed by another competent, big-budget experienced director.
Also: This ain't gonna' take place in the Kelvin universe. That universe is only a faded memory in mainstream audiences' mind at this point. By 2020 it will simply be too old and too laden with backstory to attract new viewers. Except if it's a reboot of TNG or something.
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His movies are no more violent than anyone else's. It seems like more because it comes in a big burst after a lot of building tension. It's more intense because it's earned. The most violent scenes/instances, in Reservoir Dogs: killing the patrolman, in Pulp Fiction: the basement scene, Jackie Brown: hardly any—four shootings deaths but portrayed mildly in comparison, Kill Bill: without doubt, the most violent, Death Proof: a car wrecks, and car chases, Inglorious Basterds: saw it once, nothing stands out over the top, Django Unchained: big gun fight at the end, Hateful Eight: big gun fight at the end, along with punching a woman. So from Jackie Brown to Kill Bill, he doesn't have any more extravagant violence than anyone else.
There are a host of ultra-violent slow-mo-carnage-ballet swear-a-thon types. Robert Rodriguez, Zack Snyder, Matthew Vaugn. That stuff is now a dime a dozen. I also think may finally be outgrowing/aging out of the need for that and is more interested in exploring the nuances of interpersonal drama.
Tarantino's unique strength is stagey long-drawn out dialogue with philosophical musings which is right up Trek's alley.
He totally doesn't need action. He has a way of making minimalistic one-on-one dialogue scenes crackle with tension. Imagine how that might have been able to punch up Star Trek: The Motionless Picture, for instance, without having to change the static plot at all.
indeed. the prospect of QT involved in a Trek movie is pretty much on the level of Spielberg or Cameron or RScott being announced (in fact hes probably a more interesting choice than those as they are primarily SF/Fantasy directors).. hes A list with at least 2 absolute classics of modern cinema on his directors resume. I imagine Pine and Co will be now super hyped for ST4 and at the prospect of being in a QT movie. the QT regulars (SLJ, Thurman, KRussel, Waltz, Keitel, Madsen, Roth etc) are probably intrigued at the notion of QT doing Trek and imagining appearing as a Klingon, starfleet officer, alien etc and Shatner is probably secretly praying for a nice QT comeback role as elder Kirk
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QTs ST4 - pros and cons https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottm...entin-tarantino-star-trek-movie/#668c58ed269b
Star Trek movie made by Quentin Tarantino would be interesting, that's for sure.
He's a bit of a miserable git lately, isn't he?!
You bring up some valid points, but Paramount is desperate. They maybe willing to take a different approach than usual here.
The reason I think this could happen is because Tarentino could pull it off on a lower budget. It would be a dialog heavy movie, just like all his films. The lower budget would appeal to Paramount, and purely from a marketing perspective having the next ST movie directed by QT will generate lots of interest. You get the ST fanbase, plus the general audiences that just want to see an QT movie.
I'm sure Paramount dreams at night about Tarantino directing their next Trek movie. I just don't think Tarantino will be willing to work within in the given frameworks of this already continuity-laden franchise (specifically: Kelvin Trek). Only way it might be possible would be a total reboot (again, sigh), or if he does his version of TNG in the Kelvin timeline (aka still something completely different).
There are just too many real-world variables for me to believe he will really end up directing it. What I'm 1100% sure of is Paramount will be working off of Tarantinos concept and plot points! How much of them will survive executive meddling unto the silver screen, and how much Tarantinos original version and the by other people realized final version will have in common will be an entirely different debate.
Tarantino being a Trekkie understands that he would be playing in someone else's ballpark and that he'd have to adapt to that if he really wants to do a film. When campaigning for the gig to direct CASINO ROYALE he made it explicitly clear he was willing to concede to EON's rules just so he could have the chance to adapt the novel because he loved that story.
Why do you think the Kelvin timeline is too restrictive for Tarantino? It's only been three films so far and the status quo is no different than any TOS episode (with the exception of Vulcan and Chekov). I don't see the need to do another reboot when the Kelvin films are still open ended at this point.
No more with the present crew please.
If Tarantino does make a Trek movie and if it does have to be set in the Kelvin universe, give him some leeway. Make it a spin-off on a new ship with new characters.
One of the JJ crew that actually worked (Quinto or Urban) could always guest...
A TMP - WoK style time jump of 10ish years would be plenty to establish a new different status quo for the Kelvin characters if Tarantino wanted to use those actors but not carry on the character development from ST'09/STID/STB.
I feel the end of BEYOND already did that. We're essentially in the same status quo as the TOS series where we could easily jump into the next standalone adventure without any baggage. There's plenty of enough freedom for any writer and director to step in and come up with a story with these characters.
Three films is hardly laden with backstory. If anything it would be a lot easier to go in with established, relatively iconic characters than to have to spend a fair chunk of the film setting up a whole new batch.
This is an interesting statement that could possibly warrant it's own topic. Beyond didn't do too well at the box office but it was a darn good movie. I get Joe Public doesn't seem to be as interested in Star Trek compared to say DC/Marvel, Harry Potter/Fantastic Beasts or Star Wars (we all know JJ's preference with the latter!)
Since CBS took over TOS has been the flagship brand for Trek. Yes TNG merchandise sells but it always comes back to Kirk and Spock - specifically 5YM era. Discovery is set 10 years prior so they can play in that timestream. I grew up with TNG/DS9 and VOY, fell out with ENT, but got into TOS a few years later with the New Voyages fan series. This got me pumped for the 2009 movie, which I have a nostalgia for when I see it now, weirdly. That did very well as did Into Darkness.
Would the public but another Kelvin Universe film? If not then what would they take? A TNG reboot – the show was very popular and still sells merchandise, it was only DS9, VOY and ENT that they didn’t really try with after they finished, the former two shows haven’t got blu ray releases. Or another TOS reboot tailored to Tarantino’s vision (Within 10 years Spider-Man had Maguire and Holland with Garfield in-between, likewise Affleck debuted 4 years after Bale as Batman so turnaround can be quick with reboots)? Or a new crew/post-TNG movie?
There are some franchises that I am surprised are still running, namely for example Transformers. So if they can survive surely Kelvin Trek can? If not I wonder what the future of Movie Trek holds, Pine and Quinto won’t be there forever
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