TOS ignored alot of itself in later episodes. Despite the expectations of fans, Star Trek has never had a particularly tight continuity across an entire TV series, let alone an entire expanded universe. Honestly, I'm just happy if they manage to be consistent for an entire season ("Chief Engineer, report to the bridge. Also please loudly announce yourself when you arrive because it's still season one and we're not entirely sure who you are right now...")
More importantly, alot of these statements are being made by producers and creative people rather than PR specialists. They don't seem to have really thought through their public statements from a marketing/fan relations standpoint, and this might literally be a case of them stating their INTENT even if they haven't completely figured out how to get there.
So it was never stated on-screen that all Voyager episodes are set in the same universe. Therefore it would reasonable to assume that some of them play in alternate realities as it was explicitely stated in the pilot that there was no way to replace the 38 photon torpedos Voyager had in that episode and they used a lot more in the show. Also some scenes in Star Trek V have to play in different universes because in the scene where Kirk, McCoy and Spock use the rocket boots to fly through the ship they pass the same deck numbers multiple times. Since it was never stated on-screen that the producers just reused props or shots they can't possibly be set in the same reality.
For at least two Voyager episodes this is LITERALLY true. There's the one where Voyager went through a [tech] cloud and somehow got duplicated, and the first 15 minutes of the episode actually took place on the duplicate Voyager (where most of everyone died). This is also the case for that one weird episode were Kes was aging backwards, which gave us a preview of the "Year of Hell." Almost EVERYTHING that happened in that episode was actually some sort of weird alternate timeline where Rick Berman never noticed Jennifer Lien's overwhelming lack of sex appeal.
Canon policy was defined to exclude the animated series though.Q.E.D.
-MMoM
Yes who knows. For all we know each frame in all star trek footage is a snapshot where each frame of film is from a different reality.
And where exactly is your proof of this? Outdated statements by Richard Arnold? The Star Trek Encyclopedia? Why would appealing to such sources not constitute "a special pleading fallacy"?
Sure, all I'm arguing is that the same logic your using can be easily applied to the Discovery issues as well.
God, I love Voyager.
Which would of course be silly. More to the point, you didn't say "for all we know they could be in a different timeline". You said the evidence suggested that they in fact were. Which it doesn't.
That was Harry, not Tom. Poor Harry, hardly does anything and then when he actually does fans don't remember. Wait... technically, in the prime timeline, he still hasn't done anything.
The continuity problems are the proof. Existence of the spore drive, Klingon appearance, Klingon culture, cloaking technology, transporting within the ship like its no big deal, different tech appearances, holodecks, holographic interfaces, change in uniforms, warp speed looks different, using badges instead of patches
I'm aware that they're marketing it as such. Presumably because of that small percent of subscribers who'd cancel their subscriptions if a new Trek were anything but Prime. I'm also aware that they're changing anything they want to.
I have. They were. From the poor schmuck on the asteroid station to Spock and Kirk, invisible spaceships were a new thing and not something commonplace a decade (or a century) before as depicted in ENT and DSC.
Apologies, it was "Tholian Web". Odd that Spock would forget his own (adopted) sister was infamous though Starfleet only a decade earlier.
I disagree regarding context. I've no doubt that "Balance of Terror" was written, directed and acted as though invisible spaceships were a new and novel occurrence for the Enterprise crew.
Correct, the canon policy statements that were never officially recalled by CBS so we can just assume they are still in place until they say otherwise
The writers certainly but I was thinking more of the Les Moonves level people.
This isn't proof. This is a list of your thread history.
Cool as STC is, that's a niche audience inside a niche audience.
