Spoilers Thor: Ragnarok Grading and Discussion

[Anwar]

There was a whole deleted sequence where they find Odin in New York. Presumably, the whole confrontation with Hela took place in the city in the original version.

The original idea was that Loki gave Odin amnesia and dumped him off at a retirement home in NYC on Earth. Then when it got demolished he became a homeless man.

The director changed it because he wanted Odin's death scene to be a more "beautiful" setting.

 

[Tosk]

Nor did I know about Scarlett Johansson's, although her pre-recorded message was pretty much the same (if not exactly the same) dialogue from the end of Age of Ultron.

I assume from the look and sound of it, it literally is just the footage they already shot for Age of Ultron. Seems like it'd be an odd choice to re-create rather than re-use.

 

[Alidar Jarok]

It's still fresh. It's possible the excitement could die down later, but I put it up there with the first Avengers movie, Captain America The Winter Soldier, and the first Guardians movie as possibly my favorite Marvel movie. This movie was funny, heartfelt, and epic all in the right doses.

Minor complaints: I wish the Warriors Three didn't die and Lady Sif was in the movie (in a non-dying role). Other than that, every character was great. I loved everything. I also thought the way they handled Ragnarok was brilliant.

We need to see Hela riding Garm in the comics now.

 

[Hugo Rune]

The most fun I've had in the cinema this year. Even with the water thin plot and (yet again) underutilised villain, it ranks high in the MCU for just giving me a big fat smile and a few aching ribs.

Hugo - Hulk, for just once, don't smash

 

[Skipper]

‘Thor: Ragnarok’ Scene Confirming Valkyrie’s Bisexuality Was Cut From the Film

 

[Beagleman]

That was fun. I wouldn't rate it as high as Guardians Vol.2 (because feelings) but it's one of the top Marvels and the best Thor movie. I think Thor should play a bigger role in the Avengers movies, I find him much more likeable than Tony Snark or the Boyscout.

 

[Cinema Geekly]

Went with a B-

I'll certainly give them credit for taking a risk with this character and the movie in general and in a lot of ways it paid off. While I really liked the first Thor movie and I enjoyed The Dark World I'd say this was easily the most fun. Not sure if I could say best because this is so different from those other two films.

The thing that really dragged it down for me was the thing I feel like most every Marvel film has adeptly done since Iron Man and that is mix humor, action, and emotional weight.

Clearly Marvel wanted a Taika Waititi and he has gone on the record stating that he doesn't really care for drama and is really only interested in doing comedies (so this is the closest he will ever get to touching drama) but I felt this movie leaned WAY to much on humor and tossed anything that could/should have carried any real emotion depth to the side.

The Warriors Three are throw away characters in the grand scheme of things but not to the character of Thor. They are presented as his best friends. They are senselessly disposed of (sans Siff because only one bad ass good girl per movie?) and never mentioned again.

Odin's dead out of the blue, Thor has a sister for some reason that doesn't play into the story at all, Asgard is obliterated presumably tons of its people killed and its a set up for a joke.

Perhaps not all of that but surely some of that should have mattered at least a little bit to Thor but none of it seems to at all.

It was still colorful, funny, and full of otherwise good performances but I felt let down when it came to getting that full MCU experience. I can get one off out of the box Marvel movies from FOX (who seem to be getting it now) I sort of wanted something that felt like the stakes were real and in some way tied to the bigger MCU picture.

 

[tomalak301]

We are now 9 years into the Marvel Cinematic Universe, and Thor Ragnorok is the type of movie you would expect from this franchise. It's fun, enjoyable, and somewhat over the top with great characters, but I'm afraid I will forget about it in a month. I like these movies quite a bit, but I'm at the point in my viewing where I go in kinda knowing what to expect, a fun romp but not really a deep movie that brings anything new to the table. Thor is good, Loki is great as always, and I loved Tessa Thompson as Valkarie. I also had fun with Jeff Goldbloom and this is probably the closest thing we will ever get to an Incredible Hulk solo movie (With Mark Ruffalo who is probably the most underrated actor in the MCU). The story is fine, even though tonally a lot was lost (Asgard, Odin, I don't even remember what happened to the mother) and it was under the pretense of being a comedy. It would have been nice to get that emotional impact of one of the key places in the MCU being completely destroyed but that's not going to happen in a movie like this.

Overall, it was a good film and I had a fun time, but in about 2 months, this film will blend together with everything else in the MCU that it will become one with the big blob of movies. Heck, it's getting harder to keep up with the rankings of this franchise, that's how long it's gone and it's not slowing down anytime soon.

B-

 

[Nomad]

Enjoyable movie, but very superficial and lightweight (despite all the carnage and death). It's the third Marvel film in a row to emphasize humor, with much of it verging on slapstick. I'm hoping Black Panther and Infinity War will have a better balance of the serious and the lighthearted.

 

[Anwar]

Apparently there was an earlier version that played everything serious and the test audiences hated it, so they added more humor to everything.

 

[Cinema Geekly]

The story is fine, even though tonally a lot was lost (Asgard, Odin, I don't even remember what happened to the mother) and it was under the pretense of being a comedy.

Oddly enough she died in the second Thor movie.

That movie tends to get the shaft but I thought her death was a big moment in that movie and unlike in Ragnarok someones death actually had a big effect.

 

[Velocity]

Dr. Strange totally demonstrated how well Earth is protected from threatening gods, now. Thor saw that physical strength wasn't an issue for Dr. Strange. Loki will think twice before trying any more mischief.....probably. Feels like a set up for the Infinity Wars

 

[Turtletrekker]

Movie starts in 5 minutes.

 

[LJones41]

I found it odd that a movie featuring a good number of traumatic and/or tragic incidents was more or less a comedy. And it wasn't what a person would label a "black comedy". It was just a comedy that happened to feature a good deal of traumatic and/or tragic incidents. Perhaps a good deal of the humor in this film may have been misplaced.

 

[tomalak301]

Apparently there was an earlier version that played everything serious and the test audiences hated it, so they added more humor to everything.

This is the issue I’m having with flash at the moment. You can be a comedy but there needs to be a right balance of comedy and seriousness to make things feel emotionally connecting. It seemed like this movie could have had some seriousness in it along with the comedy. I guess it’s all about timing.

 

[Tosk]

I can think of many comedies that feature murder and other forms of nastiness.

 

[tomalak301]

I can think of many comedies that feature murder and other forms of nastiness.

And are they handled with a laugh and smile and treated like not a big deal?

I’m trying to think of a series or movie that I did feel struck the right balance and the only thing that comes to mind is Farscape. In terms of movies, maybe Cable Guy (?) even though that was a dark comedy.

 

[Tosk]

And are they handled with a laugh and smile and treated like not a big deal?

Sure, sometimes. I'm thinking '80s comedies here, as many deaths treated as a joke as there were serious ones.

 

[Turtletrekker]

Sure, sometimes. I'm thinking '80s comedies here, as many deaths treated as a joke as there were serious ones.

I'm looking at you, "Weekend at Bernie's".

 

[Turtletrekker]

That was the most fun Thor movie to date, despite the deaths of the Warriors Three and the majority of the population of Asgard.

I like how they explained away The Infinity Gauntlet that we saw in the first Thor movie in the weapons vault as being a fake. The explanation as to what Mjolner actually represented came out of the blue, and is a rather drastic departure from the comics, but it works in that it's keeping the character from getting stale on the big screen (If you are nothing without the hammer, then you shouldn't have it!" ) And, of course, the fact that we saw a Loki's gaze linger on the Tesseract was not a coincidence. I'm sure that he snuck it out with him, especially with Thanos coming.*

It seems to me that this movie serves a similar function as Captain America: The Winter Soldier did in the grand scheme of things of the MCU. In TWS, SHIELD was eliminated leaving the protection of the world in the hands of The Avengers. In the Thor movies Asgard has always been portrayed as the protectors of the cosmos, and now with the Asgardians gone, the role of protectors of the cosmos will now fall to the Avengers as well.

*And yes, that was that was Thanos' vessel, Sanctuary II, that we saw in the credits sequence.
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