Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 1x07 - "Magic to Make the Sanest Man Go Mad"
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Truth be told I always chuckle to myself every time I hear Picard say "Captains Log".When my baby looks at me I gonorrhea!
Seriously, I'm no fan of an STD. DSC--definitely!
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How awesome would it be if her skin was green as well.
I read your post and instantly had a mental image of Orion Tilly with the same red hair.
And any episode of any show with Al Green tunes is automatically outstanding.
And that, to me, is more evidence that Starfleet will jettison this whole Displaced Advanced Spore Hub Drive idea by the time we see him again in "Mudd's Women".
I can imagine him at one point trying to sell his knowledge of the Spore Drive's existence, and being proven to be false because it no longer exists and was Starfleet's secret anyway.
And THAT is what makes for good TV. The haters don't even realize it, their vociferous negativity only reinforces that the show is worth talking about, even if the majority of their shitposts are contextually irrelevant. I don't think the show itself is polarizing, per se, but the audience watching most certainly is. A symptom of the times in which we live, sadly. Plus, there is also the tangential "Disco vs. Orville" nonsense going on. I personally love both of them.
I enjoyed the episode. I liked that Stamets got some development, and the beginnings of a Burnham/Stamets friendship.
My only issue is that Mudd's actions were far too brutal for him to get off with being handed over to his Haught fiancee. He should have gone to a Starfleet prison. Besides, he knows too much about the spore drive and Staments role in it.
My only issue is that Mudd's actions were far too brutal for him to get off with being handed over to his Haught fiancee. He should have gone to a Starfleet prison. Besides, he knows too much about the spore drive and Staments role in it.
So my thoughts...
This was a risky choice as a first standalone. Timeloop episodes in sci-fi shows are a slightly dubious proposition at the best of times and we are dealing with the franchise that produced what I consider the pinnacle of the art - Cause and Effect.
Discovery chose to do an action/comedy version of the plot which was probably wise - it avoids comparison with TNG and takes a different spin. Of course, it does attract comparison with the other giant of the genre, SG-1's Window of Opportunity.
So. Did what we get work? Mostly, yes. It was fast paced, punchy, and with an irreverent sense of dark humour which I enjoyed. There were some true laugh out loud moments, and once again Lorca shone through and stole the show. "I don't care", "still don't care".
@matthunter said that Burnham was Seven of Nine this week and this is bang on. The writers can't quite seem to nail down where along the Vulcan<-->Human spectrum Burnham actually is, and it seems to change subtly each week. This wasn't her strongest episode, and while I was sold on her arc, I'm conscious that without the voiceover bookends I may not have been.
Stamets did a good job of holding the story this week, and I enjoyed Rapp's take on someone going steadily mad with frustration. I would have liked a little more of Hugh in the episode, but it was pretty jam packed as it was.
Mudd was very good. I still think he's a bit of fanwank and the you're mad/no I'm Mudd thing got all the eyerolls. But I liked how they made him unapologetically nasty, without seeming overly comic booky. He's a real twat, and it was played well. I'm not entirely sold on the resolution (they had every opportunity to arrest him), but it was mandated by the need to set up the TOS character. Which only plays into the fanwank thing - this could have been an original character.
I loved the tone this week, and demonstrated that Discovery isn't the dour and joyless war series people claim it is. It did a good job with the premise overall. Enjoyed it. Just keep an eye on the fanwank.
Overall, 6/10
This was a risky choice as a first standalone. Timeloop episodes in sci-fi shows are a slightly dubious proposition at the best of times and we are dealing with the franchise that produced what I consider the pinnacle of the art - Cause and Effect.
Discovery chose to do an action/comedy version of the plot which was probably wise - it avoids comparison with TNG and takes a different spin. Of course, it does attract comparison with the other giant of the genre, SG-1's Window of Opportunity.
So. Did what we get work? Mostly, yes. It was fast paced, punchy, and with an irreverent sense of dark humour which I enjoyed. There were some true laugh out loud moments, and once again Lorca shone through and stole the show. "I don't care", "still don't care".
@matthunter said that Burnham was Seven of Nine this week and this is bang on. The writers can't quite seem to nail down where along the Vulcan<-->Human spectrum Burnham actually is, and it seems to change subtly each week. This wasn't her strongest episode, and while I was sold on her arc, I'm conscious that without the voiceover bookends I may not have been.
Stamets did a good job of holding the story this week, and I enjoyed Rapp's take on someone going steadily mad with frustration. I would have liked a little more of Hugh in the episode, but it was pretty jam packed as it was.
Mudd was very good. I still think he's a bit of fanwank and the you're mad/no I'm Mudd thing got all the eyerolls. But I liked how they made him unapologetically nasty, without seeming overly comic booky. He's a real twat, and it was played well. I'm not entirely sold on the resolution (they had every opportunity to arrest him), but it was mandated by the need to set up the TOS character. Which only plays into the fanwank thing - this could have been an original character.
I loved the tone this week, and demonstrated that Discovery isn't the dour and joyless war series people claim it is. It did a good job with the premise overall. Enjoyed it. Just keep an eye on the fanwank.
Overall, 6/10
DEE-ESS-NINE seems to work.Why wouldn't DEE-ESS-SEE
DS9 rolls off the tongue, DEE ESS SEE is a mouthful, too many ss sounds. dee-eeesssseee. That's pretty lame.
Well, I got the impression that Stella is a crazy (ex-)girlfriend type.
Pronounced like disc.DSC is not cutting it for me, how do you even pronounce it? It's not memorable, an STD is
This was so bad. A few things I picked out:
-The 32 year old actress who plays Tilly acting like a 18 year old cadet "gone wild"
-Tilly looking to pork everything that moved. Cringe.
-The crappy Bee Gees hiphop mashup playing with the shot of the Discovery windows on every time reset instance. Is this the boomer writers' idea of contemporary music? Or just a play on "ST: Disco"?
-Burnham and the guy from the Klingon prison (forget his name) dancing
-I felt they could have come up with a much better plot device to use with Mudd's shenanigans
-The 32 year old actress who plays Tilly acting like a 18 year old cadet "gone wild"
-Tilly looking to pork everything that moved. Cringe.
-The crappy Bee Gees hiphop mashup playing with the shot of the Discovery windows on every time reset instance. Is this the boomer writers' idea of contemporary music? Or just a play on "ST: Disco"?
-Burnham and the guy from the Klingon prison (forget his name) dancing
-I felt they could have come up with a much better plot device to use with Mudd's shenanigans
Actually, they could have arrested and incarcerated him and it would still have set up the TOS Roger C. Carmel version of Mudd:
From TOS - Mudd's Women:
Now, if I were the Federation, and I didn't want knowledge of an ultimately failed piece of dangerous and experimental tech, I'd leave that off Mudd's record too. The writers left it this way, so that Mudd's able to return either later this season or in a future season.
I believe it was stated Mudd was in three episodes - so we still have another coming if that's the case.
