Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 1x07 - "Magic to Make the Sanest Man Go Mad"

[Charles Phipps]

One issue I have with this... did they really say only 10,000 people died in seven months of war? I know they said 8,000 before but that could have been argued was just the first battle (and the original edit said it was just the first two days). They've kind of been implying this is a big war, and we know that the Dominion War casualties numbered well into the millions.

It doesn't really affect my opinion of the episode, but still kind of irks me from a lore perspective.

While the numbers are ridiculous, it's not as ridiculous as it seems since there's only 150 people on the Constitution class vessels and they're the Federations biggest hammers.

This does imply the mining planet was the Klingons biggest target, though.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Disco on the Disco

And turns into panic at the Disco.

 

[GeekUSACarl]

Stardates are mostly rubbish.

Personal log, star date something in the somewhere sometime today,

Strange shit happened today, we laughed, we cried, we died like 60 times.

 

[MarsWeeps]

Spoiler: What ship?

I thought it was the Buran but the second letter looks like an "A".

What ship is this from next week's preview?

 

[Push The Button]

Stardates are mostly rubbish.

Well, yes and no. By TNG we're up in the forty-thousands, which is at least in the right direction.

Like I said, a minor nitpick. I loved the episode overall, and Rainn Wilson was great.

 

[Bad Thoughts]

Disco on the Disco

This ain't no party! ...

 

[eschaton]

While the numbers are ridiculous, it's not as ridiculous as it seems since there's only 150 people on the Constitution class vessels and they're the Federations biggest hammers.

This does imply the mining planet was the Klingons biggest target, though.

Star Trek has always had its planets weirdly underpopulated. Colonies with a few thousand people, and homeworlds with millions, rather than billions, of people.

Maybe it's just that in the post-scarcity future, people are too busy enjoying life to have kids very often, so the population is continually shrinking?

 

[Nerys Myk]

Spoiler: What ship?

I thought it was the Buran but the second letter looks like an "A".
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What ship is this from next week's preview?

Spoiler

Buran?

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

@MarsSouls: About the spoilery ship:

Spoiler: ship

It's the USS Gagarin.

there's only 150 people on the Constitution class vessels

430, actually.

 

[Tuskin38]

Spoiler: What ship?

I thought it was the Buran but the second letter looks like an "A".
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What ship is this from next week's preview?

Spoiler

USS Gagarin. Seems to be the same class as the USS Kerala in Episode 2

 

[MarsWeeps]

Spoiler

Buran?

No, 2nd letter looks like an "A", I suppose it could be a mistake like they did with the Brittain in TNG.

 

[Romulan_spy]

Things I liked:
- It was a more classic Trek episode (time loop trope, standalone story, happy ending)
- Interesting character moments with Burnham. It seems she is slowly rediscovering her humanity.
- Stamets talk to Burnham about love was great.
- The way the crew conned Mudd was great.
- Overall, decent fun.

Things that made me go what?!?:
- The party seemed rather anachronistic. I doubt people from 300 years in the future would still party like we do today.
- The editing of the opening was odd. It seemed like the opening credits started half way in the middle of the "previously on".
- The episode seemed to leave a lot for the viewer to fill in. The time loop was only 30 minutes yet Mudd can go around killing the captain, hack the computer, and do a bunch of other stuff. And how did Mudd hack the computer so easily? And in one loop, we see Mudd come out of the space whale but apparently in the other loop, he beams aboard instead. In one loop, we see Mudd already walking around the ship, in another loop, he is on the bridge. In another loop, he is in Lorca's ready room. Also, we are left to assume that Stamets was briefing Burnham each loop on what happened because towards the end of the episode, Burnham just suddenly knows a bunch of stuff as if the loop was not erasing her memory. The episode seemed to jump around a lot, not just to a new time loop but to different points in the loop.

 

[MarsWeeps]

Spoiler

USS Gagarin. Seems to be the same class as the USS Kerala in Episode 2

Yes, that could be it.

 

[Feron]

I thoroughly enjoyed this one.

For the first time, I actually started to care about Burnham. The awkwardness she had at the party got explained and I got a better understanding of why she had been so impersonal in past episodes.

Mudd was funny and evil at the same time. Rainn nailed it again. It was fun to see him get his poetic justice.

Stamets has gone from being an irritating dick to a thoroughly enjoyable character.

For folks worrying that DSC had abandoned the progressive themes of earlier Trek, the fact that a big part of the plot set-up involved saving an endangered species should help I would think.

And for the Lorca haters, we see in the resolution that he really did care about his crew.

The episode was a nice mix of sci-fi-fantasy, character development, and filling in more backstory for TOS. I loved it.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

- The party seemed rather anachronistic. I doubt people from 300 years in the future would still party like we do today.

As long as there are humans, there will be parties.

 

[Push The Button]

@MarsSouls: About the spoilery ship:

Spoiler: ship

It's the USS Gagarin.

I see a pattern here ..

though I'll be very worried if we ever see a

Spoiler: ship

USS Nowak

 

[Long Syntax]

Then





Fucking





Stop




Watching.




Sweet fancy Moses. What is wrong with you people who keep complaining over and over and over and over again. Time loop? I feel like I'm stuck in one with you people who insist on not only watching a show you don't like, but then expending energy on letting everyone know about it.

It's frigging old, folks. Really, really old.

You're gonna have to get used to people saying things you don't wanna hear about something you like / love. I had to deal with it for ENT - this is your cross to bear.

 

[Tuskin38]

Burnham says 2136.8 in her log entry, ten or so years later Kirk says 1313.1 in his.

Perhaps there was some kind of reset that took place.

The way you worded your sentence made it sound like you were saying the stardate in DSC predated WNMHGB

 

[Romulan_spy]

As long as there are humans, there will be parties.

I am not saying that humans would not party anymore. Of course they would. My issue is with the music, lighting etc... The party looked too much like a party from today rather than from the future.

 

[DEWLine]

USS Gagarin, NCC-1309. Okay.

Now could we get a name and registry number for Father-in-Law-to-Harry's ship?