Large popcorn please. Yes, I would like some of your butter flavored grease.
Let's talk about the elephant in the room, this series violates Roddenberry's vision big time
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I'm sorry. Frankly, I see none of that. The writing is good, but not that good, the acting (especially from the lead) needs work, the Klingons have been handled badly in writing and design and they lied about it fitting in with the timeline.
He's right, I remember TOS, had a lot of boner jokes, making light of flying space shuttles while drinking, watching movies on the main viewer, cutting off people's legs as a practical joke, the captain running out of the bridge because his ex wife is now his 2nd officer, the captain's general lackadaisical attitude, I mean yeah, it's so much like TOS.
Absolutely agree with this. I watch it for the mythos. I love the world of Star Trek. I don't give a shit about "exploring" which few shows since TOS really even did. It could be a medical drama set at a special Starfleet medical complex (or Starfleet Medical) or a series focusing on Starfleet Command and I'd tune in. I might not love everything equally, but I'd give it a real chance.
Sorry, not and old man, nor am I wrong. It's called an opinion. Like yours and everyone else's on here.
And um, yeah. Star Trek, by it's frigging title, is about exploring space.
Fundamentally you and I won't agree, I think the acting has been top notch especially from the lead,
and I don't think anyone lied about it fitting in with the timeline.
What you're wrong about is stating your opinion as fact that we should all just accept.
Also, no, not all Star Trek is about exploring. It really hasn't been just about exploring since TOS. TNG rarely actively engaged in exploring, DS9 didn't at all, Voyager was all about getting home and Enterprise, once it got its shit together, was about the founding of the Federation.
Maybe those adult diapers failed you, because you're wrong, and on a fundamental level even a 5 year old whipper snapper would recognize. Read a dictionary, golden oldie!
I didn't do that, no more than your proclamations about people liking one series over DSC and saying they're "so-called" fans of Trek.
God forbid someone like something more than Star Trek.
For an entire season Enterprise was about destroying the Xindi. And while that season was terrible, it had nothing to do with the nature of its story. Old Man Kirkus needs his brain medicine!
I made it clear that was my opinion. I said things like "as far as I'm concerned" and "what I'm hearing from that is...". You, on the other hand, just said "Sorry, it's all those things." And then you listed your "fan credentials" as if what you think is automatically law because you were born early enough in history to have watched Trek before some others.
Yeah, I have to refill my meds. Thanks for reminding me.
Bravo, gentlemen! Bravo! Somehow, this entire exchange has completely restored my faith in humanity.
Closing while I sort through this flustercuck. Nice job, people.
OK, let's do this.
Kirkus, you didn't like them calling you an "old man", but by the same token you calling them "junior" first is just the same insult in reverse. So, we'll call this one another wash and everyone needs to cut this shit out too. It seems like it should be obvious, but I guess not.
Comments to PM. Only one infraction was handed out though, so I don't want one from every person who got a friendly.
You are not the guardian of the TruFans. Knock that crap off.
This is a wash, but you guys need to cool it, because it's pretty clear that you're implying that anyone who enjoys either show is an idiot. And that's just not nice.
Does everyone need a big flashing neon disclaimer sign in all caps saying "THIS IS MY OPINION", or can we just take it as a given and not waste time stating the blindingly friggin' obvious every minute?
Kirkus, you didn't like them calling you an "old man", but by the same token you calling them "junior" first is just the same insult in reverse. So, we'll call this one another wash and everyone needs to cut this shit out too. It seems like it should be obvious, but I guess not.
And here Albinator goes the extra mile with the insults. I've warned you about this too many times to count, so you're getting another infraction for flaming. For someone who enjoys DSC so much you sure seem determined to flameout from one of largest places to discuss it.
Comments to PM. Only one infraction was handed out though, so I don't want one from every person who got a friendly.
Star Trek is not about exploring space. Trek is about exploring the human condition, in a setting that happens to use outer space as a backdrop.
Even in TOS, so many of the episodes featured missions or incidents that had nothing whatsoever to do with actual exploration.
Kor
Even in TOS, so many of the episodes featured missions or incidents that had nothing whatsoever to do with actual exploration.
Kor
Can I disagree? I think it's implicit in so much of the premise and intro 'mission statement' that Star Trek is about exploring space. The journey naturally involves Starfleet and Federation objectives and the characters lives but space exploration is every bit a part of the reason for the journey.
I would still say it's more about the people who are doing some exploration as part of their other myriad space-based duties, rather than the process itself.
Compelling drama is about people, not just about stuff that happens.
Kor
