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How many female regulars are left standing on Discovery right now, BTW?
Two. One, a "mutineer" who has been stripped of rank and is forced into working on this secret and probably unethical project. The other, her hyperactive cadet roommate/friend.

The females in Discovery's supporting cast include a starship captain killed at the end of the pilot, an Admiral who it turns out had an affair with Captain Lorca, who subsequently sacrificed her by more or less handing her over to be captured by the Klingons, a Klingon commander who is constantly switching her allegiances to various men, and three bridge officers who do nothing other than say "Aye Sir" stare at their computer screens or nod and tilt their heads.
 
Two. One, a "mutineer" who has been stripped of rank and is forced into working on this secret and probably unethical project. The other, her hyperactive cadet roommate/friend.

The females in Discovery's supporting cast include a starship captain killed at the end of the pilot, an Admiral who it turns out had an affair with Captain Lorca, who subsequently sacrificed her by more or less handing her over to be captured by the Klingons, a Klingon commander who is constantly switching her allegiances to various men, and three bridge officers who do nothing other than say "Aye Sir" stare at their computer screens or nod and tilt their heads.

Fucking seriously?

Sheesh. At least Seven of Nine, for all her fanboy service, did bring something to the show and was one of the more interesting characters same with Torres. And Janeway was still a "good leader" even if her decision making was scatter-shot, inconsistent and just plain bizarre. Hell, all Trek female characters previously seem like they were better used as characters and people even Counselor Troi who herself was just above being there for fan service. But the only female characters is the mutineer and the goofy girl? And any other female characters used are dead, background extras, or play some cliched role in the story?

Yikes.
 
Exactly. The test is a good indicator of whether or not a female character is her own fully realized self, or just a part of the furniture.
No. The “test” is a facile substitute for any real analysis of such issues and has become a useless shorthand that rarely coincides with its goal. It served its purpose in raising awareness of the problem but has become a cliché itself.
 
Two. One, a "mutineer" who has been stripped of rank and is forced into working on this secret and probably unethical project. The other, her hyperactive cadet roommate/friend.

The females in Discovery's supporting cast include a starship captain killed at the end of the pilot, an Admiral who it turns out had an affair with Captain Lorca, who subsequently sacrificed her by more or less handing her over to be captured by the Klingons, a Klingon commander who is constantly switching her allegiances to various men, and three bridge officers who do nothing other than say "Aye Sir" stare at their computer screens or nod and tilt their heads.

Don't forget about the Security Chief killed by her own stupidity/impatience.
 
No. The “test” is a facile substitute for any real analysis of such issues and has become a useless shorthand that rarely coincides with its goal. It served its purpose in raising awareness of the problem but has become a cliché itself.
Maybe.
 
You have to wonder how she lived that long and go that far up the promotion ladder.

Well, we didn't see the guy who had the job before her.

And she's been succeeded by a dude who Lorca's known for about a minute.

Starfleet does not have a well-ordered promotions process.
 
Episode 9 - Cupid's Dagger
The Orville is called to mediate a peace treaty between two warring cultures; tensions run high between Ed and Kelly when a familiar face boards the ship; Yaphit declares his love for Dr. Finn.
 
But the only female characters is the mutineer and the goofy girl? And any other female characters used are dead, background extras, or play some cliched role in the story?
Well, as already pointed out, I forgot Commander Landry, Discovery's chief of security who was a rude bitch, probably sleeping with Lorca and was killed after she picked a fight with an alien monster who in a fit of rage already murdered the crew of another starship.

But yeah, that's Discovery's female cast.
Episode 9 - Cupid's Dagger
The Orville is called to mediate a peace treaty between two warring cultures; tensions run high between Ed and Kelly when a familiar face boards the ship; Yaphit declares his love for Dr. Finn.
Yes! Yaphit's getting his own story!
 
Well, as already pointed out, I forgot Commander Landry, Discovery's chief of security who was a rude bitch, probably sleeping with Lorca and was killed after she picked a fight with an alien monster who in a fit of rage already murdered the crew of another starship.

But yeah, that's Discovery's female cast.
Wow, I never really took that close of a look at the DSC's female characters, but that is pretty bad.
I'm kind of surprised to see that since the show has a female co-show runner.
 
Episode 9 - Cupid's Dagger
The Orville is called to mediate a peace treaty between two warring cultures; tensions run high between Ed and Kelly when a familiar face boards the ship; Yaphit declares his love for Dr. Finn.
You suppose the familiar face is the blue alien?
:bolian:
At least his face. I wonder if the rest of his spewy body will come aboard as well.
I'll be here all week...
 
Well, I've bailed on The Flash this season, so I'm now watching exactly two hours of new TV weekly: Supergirl and The Orville.
 
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