I wonder why the economics of star trek have never been discussed before?
No salutes
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I think they just wanted the cast to interact with each other with a sense of personal familiarity regardless of rank, and saluting conveys personal distance.
I would assume that you put them in a spacesuit and towed them along behind the ship on a tether. Not sure how effective it would be though.
At FTL speeds, it could be rather rough.
Assuming you are inside the warp field I would think it would be even easier than being pulled at sublight.
They might salute, but we almost never see them depicted in a circumstance where it would be appropriate.
The only one I can think of would be a promotion ceremony, or a change of command ceremony "I relieve you, sir." "I stand relieved."
If there was a conscience decision by Gene to not show saluting, they inadvertinently made Star Trek more accurate to the military than 90% of Hollywood depictions, who always show soldiers and sailors saluting indoors, and wearing their cover ....under ^ cover.
Starfleet personnel stand at attention when addressing an officer "Mr. Kim, at ease before you break something." and they stand at parade rest. They even show people standing at "parade pretty" and all jacked up just like happens in the real world
The perfect scenario for a casual salute would be an enlisted person walking past an outside on the grounds at Starfleet command. Or a Jr. Officer walking past a senior officer.
The only one I can think of would be a promotion ceremony, or a change of command ceremony "I relieve you, sir." "I stand relieved."
If there was a conscience decision by Gene to not show saluting, they inadvertinently made Star Trek more accurate to the military than 90% of Hollywood depictions, who always show soldiers and sailors saluting indoors, and wearing their cover ....under ^ cover.
Starfleet personnel stand at attention when addressing an officer "Mr. Kim, at ease before you break something." and they stand at parade rest. They even show people standing at "parade pretty" and all jacked up just like happens in the real world
The perfect scenario for a casual salute would be an enlisted person walking past an outside on the grounds at Starfleet command. Or a Jr. Officer walking past a senior officer.
Traditions change over time.
If you compare all the lost traditions from the armies and military of early history to now, we have done away with many old traditions. It is more then feasible to conclude that the salute, as well as many other things, would be something that is done away with by the time Star Trek takes place.
It was also mentioned before, saluting does not really occur on ships.
Starfleet could very well be the "military" of the future. However, that does not mean it would be anything like what we consider our military to be today. It would change and take on new responsibilities, and would probably lose many as well, as reasons for many things would become obsolete. Starfleet has always been a very more relaxed militaristic type setting compared to what we consider a military today. Also, I don't believe as many of the Doctors, Scientists, Engineers, and other people who do serve in Starfleet would want to if it were to be a more hard-core militaristic type of service. That just wouldn't fit into the Federation.
If you compare all the lost traditions from the armies and military of early history to now, we have done away with many old traditions. It is more then feasible to conclude that the salute, as well as many other things, would be something that is done away with by the time Star Trek takes place.
It was also mentioned before, saluting does not really occur on ships.
Starfleet could very well be the "military" of the future. However, that does not mean it would be anything like what we consider our military to be today. It would change and take on new responsibilities, and would probably lose many as well, as reasons for many things would become obsolete. Starfleet has always been a very more relaxed militaristic type setting compared to what we consider a military today. Also, I don't believe as many of the Doctors, Scientists, Engineers, and other people who do serve in Starfleet would want to if it were to be a more hard-core militaristic type of service. That just wouldn't fit into the Federation.
Look towards the bottom of the page: http://www.startrekhistory.com/DS3.html
This could be the answer to the question in that "is Starfleet military or not" thread.
Not really. I'm pretty sure we've been over that territory too lol
It's amazing (to me!) just how many Trek fans make the non-fan mistake of not putting out the thumb.
They do have ruffles and flourishes, though ("The Savage Curtain").
Yeah. And though the hand salute does seem to have gone extinct, a security honor guard does some kind of a present arms, which is also a salute, in "Journey to Babel."
I have posted this image before when this came up, but it gives an idea of how the hand salute has already evolved. In this photo from the early 1890s, we see US Navy officers giving a variety of less formalized salutes, from actually lifting the hat to touching the brim or visor, and one using the left hand. It also shows how the hand salute is tied to headwear, which (mostly) has disappeared as a part of uniforms in Star Trek.
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