Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 1x05 - "Choose Your Pain"

[Agony_Boothb]

I don't Jason Isaacs has to put in much effort to get into character for Lorca

 

[Guy Gardener]

I don't Jason Isaacs has to put in much effort to get into character for Lorca

Jez has to cut his sexy in half, and pretend to be an American.

WHAT A SACRIFICE!

 

[SpocksOddSocks]

I don't Jason Isaacs has to put in much effort to get into character for Lorca

Very sadistic in this case, yes.

Jez has to cut his sexy in half, and pretend to be an American.

WHAT A SACRIFICE!

What must he sacrifice...?

Everything

 

[Agony_Boothb]

I don't know the southern drawl is doing it for me

 

[cooleddie74]

Lorca is pretending to be an American from the Southern part of the country? My respect for him just went up.

#TheFederationWillRiseAgain

 

[137th Gebirg]

I don't know the southern drawl is doing it for me

The odd thing is it's not always there. He seems to bounce around from Southwestern Virginia to Ohio. Very uneven performance in that regard.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Didn't Isaacs say he actually wanted "Git'R Done" to be Lorca's catch phrase?

 

[137th Gebirg]

Something like that, yes. IIRC, I think he was told that that was a trademarked phrase. I don't like his simple "go", though. Too...well, simple.

 

[Feron]

Didn't Isaacs say he actually wanted "Git'R Done" to be Lorca's catch phrase?

Well at least it wasn't "Hold my beer and watch this!"

 

[Manuuk7]

The series has gotten better with the last two episodes, but it's still pretty dumb.

Things I liked:
* I was positively surprised by Rainn Wilson as Harry Mudd. He must've studied Roger C. Carmel as he captured several of his mannerisms as Mudd perfectly. Mudd is not only the small-time criminal we thought from TOS, but a collaborator.

* This episode came the closest yet to actually feel like Star Trek, especially as the ethics of the "Tardigrade" was explored.

Things I didn't like:

* Alright with using organic technology, but the mycelium network isn't a very good concept.

* Lorca, perhaps the most important Starship Captain, travels unescorted at a location where he can get picked up easily by Klingons? Also, Lorca killed his crew?

* That was supposed to be a D7? No, don't think so. That the producers are unaware of some Star Trek basics (such as the quote from the ST Writer's Guide I've used earlier that the viewscreen "is not a window") is one thing, showing almost disrespect is another. And the raiders with their "feathers" really didn't feel Klingon to me.

Things I look forward to learn more about:

* Is Ash who he claims he is? *cough*Voq*cough*

* Stamets at the end: Is the Mirror Universe coming into play?

Things I still ask myself:

I rate this episode 5/10.

That’s harsh

 

[Noname Given]

not in the last two episodes and i predict this will continue.

Last two episodes? No. Just this last one with Lorca, Ash and Mudd as the focus. Such 'other character focus' episodes have occurred before, but she was definitely front and center with the Talligrade subplot of Episode 5.

 

[GeekUSACarl]

Last two episodes? No. Just this last one with Lorca, Ash and Mudd as the focus. Such 'other character focus' episodes have occurred before, but she was definitely front and center with the Talligrade subplot of Episode 5.

strongly disagree. there was no one front and center for five.

 

[cultcross]

I stole this from Instagram but it made me laugh.

 

[Longinus]

I really hope this actually happens!

 

[Tuskin38]

I have a feeling that is their plan, start dark and aim for the light.

 

[Nyotarules]

For all we know, gay rights were set way back during the wars of the 20th and 21st centuries, and they're just now getting back to more or less where we are now.

Because the whole Federation operates on an ancient (for them) North American agenda?

 

[Guy Gardener]

Eugenics War.

Gay would not have been stamped out because of Gay = bad, gay would have been stamped out because of how ineffective gays are at conceiving babies with same sex sex. It's a sad fact that but sex hardly ever leads to a healthy pregnancy, so if magic made up Star Trek fake science found a gay gene, it would have been removed from the pool.

Although... If there was a gay gene (in made up star trek science) it could be pushed on "undesirables" as an alternative to execution or castration.

Although...

If supermen, and the uplifting of normals is done by artificial insemination rather than direct heterosexual sex, then gay and straight coupling does not enter as a factor into social groups, so long as everyone is still churning out superior babies.

Furthermore...

If artificial insemination is the only legal method of procreation, to ensure the greater levels of perfection in ever more super state of humanity, then heterosexual sex should be outlawed to stop the introduction of random babies wit unapproved parentage.

So, Khan would have made everyone gay, if the gay gene existed because of made up fake star trek science, and you could just make everyone gay with one syringe of goop shot into their arm.

Although, these Supermen ruled Earth for less than a decade, so probably didn't get to push their social programs completely forward, so never mind.

 

[Longinus]

Please stop.

 

[Borgminister]

Test tube babies.

 

[USS Triumphant]

Because the whole Federation operates on an ancient (for them) North American agenda?

From screen canon it often seems like a large portion of humanity *was* wiped out outside of North America. So, maybe?

Gay would not have been stamped out because of Gay = bad, gay would have been stamped out because of how ineffective gays are at conceiving babies with same sex sex.

There's a theory I've heard that says that the portion of mammalian population born gay increases proportionally as the overall population increases, because it is a positive population check. Not sure that I buy that, but if there's any truth to it, and the human population was radically decreased by wars, then perhaps it wouldn't even require the social pressures (which would almost certainly be there anyway, because as Guy pointed out - babies) - the gay population might decrease as a proportion naturally.

(Everyone please bear in mind that I've been an LGBT ally and advocate for more than 30 years - since the acronym was still GLBT, even. I'm not making any sort of real world political statements with what I'm saying here, and certainly not any homophobic ones. I'm talking about a possible storyline for a TV show, and sometimes they do have bad things happen, because they're interesting. "Designated Survivor" talks about blowing up Congress during a State of the Union, but none of the people making the show have been arrested for plotting terrorism so far. )