Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 1x05 - "Choose Your Pain"

Yeah, it sounded TOTALLY natural to me, so much so it sounded exactly like something my wife would exclaim. And she works in an accounting department where f-bombs fly with abandon.

 

For me swearing is just another form of communication, gosh, darn and dare I say poot are all very well but in terms of expressing emotion they fall a bit flat.

I had an older brother when I was a kid who was 10 years older than me so I got all the swear words from him while watching Blackadder, Young Ones and Red Dwarf.

I was upstairs on the bus going to town one day when I was young and the driver went a different way than my dad used to go, so I shouted "Your Going The Wrong Fucking Way" as loudly as I could.

I was 6 at the time.

 

So, why didn't Mudd have any visible injuries? We know that when the Klingons came in and asked him to choose his pain, he always chose the other guy, but at some point, wouldn't they have asked Mudd's cellmate the same question? Wouldn't one of the cellmates have chosen Mudd to take the punishment? It seems Mudd should've had some injuries at some point.

 

I watched the episode again last night.

3 experts, who know equally the same information about tardigrades, deliver a verbal presentation for NO ONE. Sure it helps to say stuff out loud when you're a little stuck, but that was organized how they divided the information between themselves where they might have been reading as much as reciting, for some one who knew little to nothing about the subject who does not exist.

When they do that on NCIS, every week, the minions are telling Gibbs what they have already figured out, but here, there were no missing secrets. it was a review of the very well known by all.

The science was not "So fucking Cool" it was the months old bread and butter of every inch of technology that was embedded into that lab, but maybe "presenting" the science was what was so fucking cool, as if she wasn't still a dip shit cadet for a few seconds.

 

We were very happy, an actor on the show was gracious enough to do an interview for our weekly Discovery Podcast. Not a major role but still had some nice insights and something to say about the episode. He was in episode 5 but his interview will go up on our episode 6 cast.

 

I hate to say it, but I have to agree with you here. Burnham is quickly becoming one of the least interesting characters for me as time goes on. I'm sure part of that has to do with the fact that her Vulcan upbringing makes her a bit dull, personality wise. But still... I feel like she was sort of shoehorned in as the "main protagonist" of the series because it was a holdover from Bryan Fuller's original vision.

 

ive said this a few times and ill say it again.

she is not a main character, there is none. cbs pushed the main character thing as a selling point to seem socially progressive. "look our main character is a woman and a minority, its a first" but there is no main character.

though i disagree with her being uninteresting and disagree there is no ensemble cast. if anything i thought this episode highlighted just how strong the cast is as a whole,

 

She is the main character, everything revolves around her and her choices. She may be dull, but she is the focus of the show.

 

Yeah, it's not like he saved Earth/humanity as we know if from total annihilation or anything.

 

i think its pretty clear that the last two havent really revolved around any one character and i doubt the next one will either.

it was a good selling point but thats not how the episodes are being presented. And ill bet the next episode will further bear that out.

 

She is the nexus of everything that is going on. She doesn't have to be in every scene for that to be true.

 

under that logic the klingons are the main characters because they are the nexus of everything thats happened.

she didnt start the war... didnt stop the war.. didnt necesitate the spore drive... didnt research or invent it... she has a shared hand in fixing it with two other crew members but the one who really stepped up was stamets... had little to do with lorcas rescue.

doesnt seem like she is the nexus of anything. in faft shes been rather inconsequential in comparison to other crew members.

 

Michael isn't worse written than anyone else on the show; her dullness comes mostly from poor casting. As crummy as Lorca is as a character, for example, he's still my favorite part of the show because Issacs is magnetic to watch.

 

frankly i like her character and think the show was wonderfully cast. i think shes doing great

 

Yeah, I really don't get all this complaining about Burnham. It is unfortunate that her pivotal moments in the first episodes were badly written, but over all I like the character and Martin-Green is doing great job.

 

one mans dull knife is another mans blunt weapon. i get why people dont like her. but i do

 

Action equals proportional reaction.

Burnham was sent to her room: Did not escape.

If Burnham had been sent to the brig: She would have escaped, taken over the ship and saved the day.

 

I'm almost embarrassed to say this but I thought Ripper was kind of...CUTE.

Seriously, I started to get misty-eyed when it was in the spore chamber (in obvious distress) during the jumps. And at the end, when Burnham released Ripper into space, while Tilly recited a prayer, and Ripper jumped away to freedom...I'm pretty much going all at that point.

 

Burnham was traumatized, and then taking in by a Vulcan who, illogical as it might seem to us, may have actually trained her in Vulcan logic and discipline *without* fully dealing with that, because Sarek seems like someone who might not dignify indulging in the emotions. So she's Vulcan, then human, and then a human demonstrating that she has PTSD, round and round. She actually reminds me of the kid from the TNG episode "Hero Worship" who was less than successfully copying Data rather than dealing with his pain.

Well, he was basically Stitch from "Lilo and Stitch", so I thought so, too. "Claws that can rip through a starship hull, but ALSO CUTE AND FLUFFY!"

 

Sarek.