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USA distribution -CBS All Access discussion

What about CW? That's the successor to UPN which voyager launched in 1995. Also the content on CW matches Trek very well.

You’d have to kill the budget to move it to cw happened with supergirl when it moved. Not a good idea.

Network tv these days doesbtbhave the viewers to support a show as expensive as discovery. If it moved anywhere it would be showtime
 
Yep. Sure it could be moved to The CW... if you remove the profanity, graphic violence, gore, and 80% of the show's budget.

As for moving to CBS itself, that wouldn't happen either. Supergirl's first season had a budget of $3 million per episode, nearly a third of Discovery's, and CBS couldn't find the viewers to sustain it. And, to be frank, Supergirl has more name recognition in this era of comic book movies and television shows than Star Trek does.
 
Well if it moved to Showtime I'd have to pay more than I'm paying for CBAA so that stinks. Showtime may actually have other content I want to watch though.
 
You’d have to kill the budget to move it to cw happened with supergirl when it moved. Not a good idea.

To be fair, the budget reduction didn't hurt the visual aspects of Supergirl in any way. The Budget was reduced by moving production out of Los Angeles/Hollywood proper to Canada (where the other Berlanti shows were already being filmed.) I thionk they also renegotiated the licensing fee to be lower for the CW then what the CBS network (yes, same parent company different divisions though.)

But the ST: D situation is quite different. CBS has pegged it as the 'Flagship show' that they want to use to grow CBSAA subscriptions in the U.S. I think they are even considering talking CBSAA international, which would mean ending the association with Netflix internationally and meaning if CBS decided to continue with ST: D as the 'Flagship show'; they'd have to shoulder the full production cost of any future seasons.

I guess it depends on how 'Gung Ho' CBS is to try and spread their service internationally, because I'd say profit wise (and assuming Netflix remains interested) CBS would make more money in the short term continuing ST: D form at least a second season under a similar arrangement they currently have with Netflix and Space in Canada.
 
To be fair, the budget reduction didn't hurt the visual aspects of Supergirl in any way. The Budget was reduced by moving production out of Los Angeles/Hollywood proper to Canada (where the other Berlanti shows were already being filmed.) I thionk they also renegotiated the licensing fee to be lower for the CW then what the CBS network (yes, same parent company different divisions though.)

But the ST: D situation is quite different. CBS has pegged it as the 'Flagship show' that they want to use to grow CBSAA subscriptions in the U.S. I think they are even considering talking CBSAA international, which would mean ending the association with Netflix internationally and meaning if CBS decided to continue with ST: D as the 'Flagship show'; they'd have to shoulder the full production cost of any future seasons.

I guess it depends on how 'Gung Ho' CBS is to try and spread their service internationally, because I'd say profit wise (and assuming Netflix remains interested) CBS would make more money in the short term continuing ST: D form at least a second season under a similar arrangement they currently have with Netflix and Space in Canada.

In the short term, Canada is the only place they are looking to expand CBSAA and interestingly enough Canada is the one country with a "different deal" which I think goes away. It has also been stated that even with CBS buying channel 10 in Australia, that Discovery will remain on netflix there.

So reading between the lines I think the Canada deal is only a 1 year deal and I think the Netflix deal gives Netflix access to discovery for its entire run (or at least right of first refusal).

Any shows after discovery (or any stand alone mini-series) would be a totally blank slate.
 
You’d have to kill the budget to move it to cw happened with supergirl when it moved. Not a good idea.

Network tv these days doesbtbhave the viewers to support a show as expensive as discovery. If it moved anywhere it would be showtime

Well, it's not getting massive numbers of viewers on All-Access, either. It's that given their streaming service CBS is making a lot more per viewer than they would on network.
 
Well, it's not getting massive numbers of viewers on All-Access, either. It's that given their streaming service CBS is making a lot more per viewer than they would on network.

Exactly. It is about money made not number of viewers which is why even if CBS released viewing figures, trying to compare them to say Orville would be meaningless since the business model of the two shows is completely different.
 
I feel so fortunate to be watching two new good sci fi shows at the same time. I can't remember the last time this happened.
 
I feel so fortunate to be watching two new good sci fi shows at the same time. I can't remember the last time this happened.

Reminds me of the DS9/B5 days though after TNG broke through in syndication there were quite a few SF shows on at the time but those two were the top of the list.
 
I feel so fortunate to be watching two new good sci fi shows at the same time. I can't remember the last time this happened.
It's a blessing and a curse. Orville is already half over, and Discovery is already 33% complete. And it feels like they just started! It feels like we're still in the beginning.
 
I miss 20+ episode seasons.

I like The Orville, but an on the fence with DSC.
I took the CBSAA for the trial a day after the premier so I could see the third episode.
When I went to cancel, they offered another month for free.
So I will get to see 7 shows before I have to decide on paying.
 
This is the first episode I’ve experienced problems with the stream. Green screen and buffering. Seems like the internet is crudding out tonight.
 
I have had no problems with it whatsoever until tonight. It plays for 10 seconds, freezes turns green jumps back five and this this goes on until it totally locks up a minute into the episode. But that brought to you by GEICO ad plays perfectly in HD every time
 
I was able to watch the first two minutes and forty eight seconds , and it only took seven minutes to do so until it permanently froze up
 
I was able to watch the first two minutes and forty eight seconds , and it only took seven minutes to do so until it permanently froze up

I had my first freeze up at the 27 minute mark. Most of it is repeating scenes, green pixels, and buffering
 
In the short term, Canada is the only place they are looking to expand CBSAA and interestingly enough Canada is the one country with a "different deal" which I think goes away. It has also been stated that even with CBS buying channel 10 in Australia, that Discovery will remain on netflix there.

So reading between the lines I think the Canada deal is only a 1 year deal and I think the Netflix deal gives Netflix access to discovery for its entire run (or at least right of first refusal).

Any shows after discovery (or any stand alone mini-series) would be a totally blank slate.

Man, I think that would suck for Canadian fans, Crave and Space seem like way better viewing options then CBS All Access. Crave has a way better library then CBS All Access.
 
Just wanted to let you all know I called CBSAA and was able to get a free month next month because of the issues on Sunday. That's one of two months I can have the service for free with Discovery not coming back until January. This might help you all.

Also, I use it for Football since I just cut my comcast so I'll take the free month in the thick of the postseason races.
 
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