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Discovery and "The Orville" Comparisons

Well, yeah. The episode was focused on the Krill ship. The jaunt to the Enterprise in STIV was a piece of the story.

It did help that Chackoff ( I know immature but that's how I always say it in my head ) got captured but even as I kid I felt the fact that it took so long was kinda ridiculous.
 
It did help that Chackoff ( I know immature but that's how I always say it in my head ) got captured but even as I kid I felt the fact that it took so long was kinda ridiculous.

I think him getting caught was daft, but, it was the set up for at least half a dozen jokes in Star Trek IV: it should have guest starred Steve Gutenberg.
 
The science of The Orville has so far been more believable (and has.

Hahahahahaha - And I'm NOT ripping The Orville on this except to say NEITHER Star Trek (in ALL its incarnations) nor The Orville has presented "more believable science" when it comes to a realistic depiction of how interstellar space travel for humans will possibly be - NEITHER ONE.
 
I think him getting caught was daft, but, it was the set up for at least half a dozen jokes in Star Trek IV: it should have guest starred Steve Gutenberg.

Oh jesus,

I can imagine Gutenberg captaining the enterprise in the 90's.

Bobcat could be the first officer. Johnny Five would be the science officer,
 
Oh jesus,

I can imagine Gutenberg captaining the enterprise in the 90's.

Bobcat could be the first officer. Johnny Five would be the science officer,

I have this serious imagined version of ST:IV with him in the old Eddie Murphy role. And I think the Orville is great, like a sort of Star Trek meets early Police Academy thing.
 
...NEITHER Star Trek (in ALL its incarnations) nor The Orville has presented "more believable science" when it comes to a realistic depiction of how interstellar space travel for humans will possibly be - NEITHER ONE.

There is, nonetheless, a difference between the concepts of a Albecurrie drive and a 'Shroom drive. Do you know what it is? :cool:
 
There is, nonetheless, a difference between the concepts of a Albecurrie drive and a 'Shroom drive. Do you know what it is? :cool:

Oh come off it. You've been one of the most eager in the past to jump down people's throats when they've tried to boost some show they like by claiming its fantasy technology is all based in real science, unlike the stupid movie or show they don't like with its silly made up science. Fuck off with that "real science fiction :cool:" subtext.
 
There is, nonetheless, a difference between the concepts of a Albecurrie drive and a 'Shroom drive. Do you know what it is? :cool:
The Albecurrie Drive is a theory based on Einstein's calculations for warp drive (in fact, the shape of the Orville's engines is based on the curve from this theory).

The 'Shroom Drive is something I don't think has a theory yet in science.
 
I came up with a game. Every time The Orville rips off a Star Trek episode, just add "with dick jokes" to the Trek episode title, and that's what The Orville is.

For example:

Episode 6 of The Orville was "The Enterprise Incident with dick jokes".
Episode 5 of The Orville was "For the World is Hollow and I Have Touched the Sky with dick jokes"

It actually works.

Can't wait for "City on the Edge of Forever with dick jokes" (and Harlan Ellison's reaction to it):lol:
 
Can't wait for "City on the Edge of Forever with dick jokes" (and Harlan Ellison's reaction to it):lol:
Actually, wasn't it already in "City on the Edge of Forever", when the guy next to Kirk says, "Ya know, if she really wanted to help a fellah in need, she could..."
 
I have this serious imagined version of ST:IV with him in the old Eddie Murphy role. And I think the Orville is great, like a sort of Star Trek meets early Police Academy thing.

Oh god, POLICE ACADEMY. I've been trying to put my finger on what kind of comedy Orville is and that's exactly that. Then I started thinking of those types of comedies that were common in the 80s and 90s like MAJOR LEAGUE, and how much I never found any of those to be particularly funny.

This is essentially DOWN PERISCOPE IN SPACE. Ewwwwwwwwwww.
 
Oh god, POLICE ACADEMY. I've been trying to put my finger on what kind of comedy Orville is and that's exactly that. Then I started thinking of those types of comedies that were common in the 80s and 90s like MAJOR LEAGUE, and how much I never found any of those to be particularly funny.

This is essentially DOWN PERISCOPE IN SPACE. Ewwwwwwwwwww.

It’s ever so slightly more serious, and closer in tone to earlier examples...ones where the people are a bit goofy, but not outright inept at their jobs. But essentially yes...the screw-ups who come good in the end. I like that stuff when it works, and anyone who does not laugh at least the early Police Academies is very very likely clinically dead, or suffering some other kind of disability that gets in the way.
 
It all makes sense. That drunk pilot in the first episode goofing off with the shuttlecraft is exactly that kind of broad humor that just grates me.

It's probably because I'm not of that generation that grew up with those movies. The whole "check out these unlikely zzzzaaaaaaaannny misfits achieve something in their unorthodox way!"

The only part I did genuinely laugh at was the Real Housewives gag.
 
It all makes sense. That drunk pilot in the first episode goofing off with the shuttlecraft is exactly that kind of broad humor that just grates me.

It's probably because I'm not of that generation that grew up with those movies. The whole "check out these unlikely zzzzaaaaaaaannny misfits achieve something in their unorthodox way!"

The only part I did genuinely laugh at was the Real Housewives gag.

I'm mid 30's and I love that humor if done well, and I love the SM low brow humor.
 
It all makes sense. That drunk pilot in the first episode goofing off with the shuttlecraft is exactly that kind of broad humor that just grates me.

It's probably because I'm not of that generation that grew up with those movies. The whole "check out these unlikely zzzzaaaaaaaannny misfits achieve something in their unorthodox way!"

The only part I did genuinely laugh at was the Real Housewives gag.

Again I have only seen episode 1, but it’s not quite as zzzaaannnnnny . There’s too much story for them to get through for that. It’s closer to just the dramatic parts of those movies...maybe Ghostbusters is a closer fit.
 
I dunno, Peter Venkman was a goof but he didn't go as far as to pretend to drunk drive the Ecto 1 for his own amusement.

For the record, I never actually liked FAMILY GUY, and the only movie of his I've seen was TED, which again didn't find all that funny. I don't have a hate boner for him like so many seem to, its just that his brand of humor never worked for me.

I did like his hosting of the Oscars, but that's largely because most Oscars programs are so stale that him just making fun of it and Hollywood in concept was refreshing, which of course everyone hated because Hollywood doesn't like mockery.
 
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